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Spurs's DNA

Why is it that, year after year, squad after squad and manager after manager, our players do not turn up for big games or finals? Or consistently fail to grasp opportunities to go top of the table or, in the most recent case, an opportunity to put pressure on our top 4 rivals?

There have been a few exceptions along the way but, in the main, the players just do not seem to have the bottle required for success.

It really is a mystery to me. What the hell causes it and how can it be corrected?

• You can’t blame the fans, because we have not been at games this season and for a significant chunk of last season.

• You can’t just blame Jose, because the same thing happened under Poch, AVB, BMJ etc etc.

• You can’t just blame recruitment, because we’ve had a number of people involved in this aspect over the years (Arnesen, Hitchin, Levy).

What the hell is it? Is it the bloody water in N17 or something?!

posted on 10/5/21

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
It's hard to win trophies
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Not when you put your mind to it, it isn't...

posted on 10/5/21

Spurs trouble is they think they're a big club...without putting the hard yards in

They have a big stadium...not same

posted on 10/5/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 35 minutes ago
Spurs trouble is they think they're a big club...without putting the hard yards in

They have a big stadium...not same
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Spurs are a big club. Just financially doped like some.

posted on 10/5/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 37 minutes ago
Spurs trouble is they think they're a big club...without putting the hard yards in

They have a big stadium...not same
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Historically we are a bigger club than you. You just got extremely fortunate you won the lottery and have been successful since then. Prior to that, Chelsea were a nothing club. Spurs are a big club that should be winning more trophies. It’s no “we think”, we are a big club.

comment by Ace (U22467)

posted on 10/5/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 51 minutes ago
Spurs trouble is they think they're a big club...without putting the hard yards in

They have a big stadium...not same
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Yeah, but unlike some who’s club aren’t a big club (Pompey) we don’t run off to support another club (Chelsea) you facking flabby old belllend.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 10/5/21

even you know spurs are a big club sheriff

they dont act like one most of the time though but doesnt mean they are not one

posted on 10/5/21

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 51 minutes ago
Spurs trouble is they think they're a big club...without putting the hard yards in

They have a big stadium...not same
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Yeah, but unlike some who’s club aren’t a big club (Pompey) we don’t run off to support another club (Chelsea) you facking flabby old belllend.
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He’s a pant sniffer Ace. Remember.

posted on 10/5/21

How Chelsea win trophies?

££££££££££££££££££££

posted on 10/5/21

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 51 minutes ago
Spurs trouble is they think they're a big club...without putting the hard yards in

They have a big stadium...not same
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Yeah, but unlike some who’s club aren’t a big club (Pompey) we don’t run off to support another club (Chelsea) you facking flabby old belllend.
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Ace...sniff my fackin undercrackers you fackin sad sack

posted on 11/5/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 19 hours, 6 minutes ago
Need to win one thing and all that would change. We got into a real slump in terms of being nearly men. Beaten by Villa in a cup semi final, beaten by Chelsea in a league cup semi final, beaten by Sevilla in the Europa, beaten by Madrid in the CL final, hit 98 points in the Prem and still came second. All across 5 years. One win changes everything, won the CL and the next season we won the Prem.
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I agree with this and if you look at the likes of Pep and Jose when they came to the league, getting that first trophy was a massive step in building a winning mentality and expectation.

Both managers shameless in picking their strongest line up in the League Cup and not feeling above winning the smallest trophy available and really relishing winning it and celebrating the victory.

There is not that expectation with Spurs, it is only a hope. This has been ingrained in the club over decades now. I agree that it is a lot easier for managers of United or Liverpool to inspire their players with the weight of expectation their successful history brings. When Spurs' equivalent is historic success that is so historical that it is almost entirely irrelevant, it is harder to instil such a strong sense of an absolute desire and expectation to win stuff.

The way this changes is through the manager. He sets the tone. Poch seemed to raise the bar in this respect but as a man who had won nothing it was still slightly hollow, still more a hope than expectation.

Jose brought that expectation but really he came at a time when football has moved from when his approach was most successful.

You can see the inspiration of the likes of Klopp and Pep, it was obvious in Fergie and Wenger and Jose back in the day.

Of course you need to add to this a decent set of players and a squad of sufficient size and quality to still be able to compete at the sharp end of the season but for me the manager is absolutely key in all this and this is the common denominator in all the successful teams over the years.

In the ENIC era i think the focus has been too UCL driven and the cups have been sacrificed to a degree. While the UCL is where the money is, a trophy 5 years ago would have got the Poch era moving in the right direction and reinforce the belief we had then and making it more of an expectation than a hope.

Next manager appointment is absolutely crucial but if you think that we are looking for a modern man who can operate with a decent budget but not OTT but also comes with pedigree and stature that will inspire a winning mentality AND bring some style too, the list is understandably very short. Many of the managers being talked about bring more hope than epectation. If we are going for a rebuild with a younger progressive manager (Potter for example) then a trophy early in this reign is key or else we will likely just see history repeating itself.

Spurs continue to be a developing ground rather than the pinnacle and for that reason we will always miss out on the top candidates or get them past their sell by dates.

So for me, manager trumps money when it comes to being successful.

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