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Momentum Shift in the US

Not a huge surprise but Republican politicians and Fox News ‘reporters’ are now advising people to get the vaccine as they finally realised that if all their clientele don’t get vaccinated they’ll die off and the right will lose their cash cow.

1 in 5 new cases in the USA are coming from Florida (quelle surprise) and the vast majority of people in hospital beds in the US from COVID are the unvaccinated. Hopefully the western world wakes up to the reality of this and once everyone has been double vaccinated the governments start to distribute vaccines to the rest of the world and only then will this be over.

posted on 22/7/21

comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
It would be a shame, the US has a lot to offer. Best thing the US could do would be to rip up the constitution for a start and rewrite it to fit the 21st century.

Also the fact a nation that considers itself a pioneer uses religion as a base of half its political strategy is farcical.
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The first lesson should be ‘amendments are made to be amended’.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 22/7/21

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 7 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
Has the US even been hit properly by the Delta yet? Cos if not, things are going to change rapidly when it does get there.
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It is just starting to take a foothold now. Those with the two dose jabs should be OK. Those with the single dose maybe not so much. Those unvaccinated are probably in trouble.

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Wait - do you mean those that have only had one jab of a two jab vaccine or are you claiming the j&j single dose is not effective? If the latter what is your source?

posted on 23/7/21

Robb got completely humbled on this thread

comment by #4zA (U22472)

posted on 23/7/21

comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 7 minutes ago
US citizens have no real concept of what a lockdown entails.

Here in Spain, nobody but nobody left their house for over sixteen weeks. Visits to supermarkets and pharmacies only. Guardia Civil officers checking every car. You had to retain your receipt for it to be time and date checked by the same officers on the way home (some initially tried just carrying bread and bottled water in the back to fool them.)

Anyone caught outside without good reason was fined

Times for outdoor exercise was divided up by age. For example, OAPs allowed out between 8am and 10am.

Compulsory masks, hand gel and occupant limits in all establishments with security personnel on hand to monitor and check all entrants.

Mandatory cleaning of shopping carts, baskets.

Curfew from 10pm to 6am. No exceptions.

No mixing from different households.


Sound like a US lockdown? Gimme a break..
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Hmm sounds a lot like Santa Clara county from July - October and then again November to April.

non-essential retail closed.

limited capacity in grocery stores, early opening solely for 'at risk'. you were handed a trolley or basket that had been cleaned by the person managing the door.

no inter household mixing or fines

take away only from restaurants

compulsory masks everywhere (still in place today in a variety of settings)

curfew 10-6am

granted, we were one of the few places in the US that actually did a proper lockdown.
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here in NYC area we had all that.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 23/7/21

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Democratic People's Republic of North Korteta (U3245)
posted 5 minutes ago
you accuse me of making assumptions?! oh my days

"You can bet that the vast majority of those who have got the jab, one or two doses are the Florida Dems."

you just made this massive assumption that I proved false with statistics, then you claim I "misread the data"? Laughable
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You didn’t prove it false with statistics. You misread what the statistics mean.

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Explain the statistics then. But I am sure you won't

posted on 23/7/21

comment by Chelsea’s bin (U18355)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
Robb got completely humbled on this thread
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‘Today in things that didn’t happen’

posted on 23/7/21

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 17 hours, 44 minutes ago
in the US here the vast majority of media is liberal, New York and California dominate and they are very liberal.

….

No they are not.
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Uh yes they are.

posted on 23/7/21

I've heard some arguments for the anti-vaxxers here in one of golf outings a couple weeks ago. An younger gentleman was against it because and I quote "it clearly doesn't work if people are still getting COVID. I'd wait and see if there's an improvement on this before taking it."

Reason this was brought up was because I played near the medical center in Houston and he was a nurse in one of the hospitals. Would've thought they required vaccines but I dunno. There was a whole debate on on that too.

posted on 4/8/21

Was this the thread with the questions about what Florida was getting right compared to other states? Well that idea has gone to shat, absolute chaos in Florida right now, hospitals bursting at the seams. DeSantis needs removing asap, the guy is a disgrace.

posted on 4/8/21

comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 37 minutes ago
Was this the thread with the questions about what Florida was getting right compared to other states? Well that idea has gone to shat, absolute chaos in Florida right now, hospitals bursting at the seams. DeSantis needs removing asap, the guy is a disgrace.
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I think it was another thread, where me and another poster noted that they let it rip the 'first wave' and had a smaller second wave as expected (not thanks to DeSantis) if you look at Spanish flu examples of cities who did the same thing. They also cooked the numbers, so that the overall numbers seemed low (but the excess death ones are way up).
With letting the delta variant running rampant you will get the same scenario all over again: this wave will be horrible, but the next one relatively calm so that he or the next guy can claim credits. But, cooking the numbers will be a bit harder this time due to reality kicking in....

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