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Just received a survey from spurs

Concerning covid passports for attending matches, I personally have no problem with it as I am fully vaccine, but there are still a lot of younger people who haven't or won't have it, so how do you feel not being allowed in if not fully vaccine, remembering there are certain places you always needed to be vaccinated before you went on holiday to

posted on 30/7/21

comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is absolutely not "completely safe". That is absolutely untrue and even looking at your own government data (available on their own website) shows it is not "completely safe". That's only short term issues we know of know.

Just because I don't share your view doesn't make me a nut job.

Democracy doesn't work where you aren't willing to listen or understand the views of others. But that's the way this has gone.

No one is "pandering" to me. If anything, I'd say its quite the opposite.

Irrespective of your views on the vaccine, the proposed covid password is nothing short of medical apartheid. It seems most people are accepting of this. I am not.
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Meh, no concern of mine, two clicks on my phone and my vaccine passport is good to go.

posted on 30/7/21

Medical apartheid you say? Good, I want you people kept away from me.

posted on 30/7/21

comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is absolutely not "completely safe". That is absolutely untrue and even looking at your own government data (available on their own website) shows it is not "completely safe". That's only short term issues we know of know.

Just because I don't share your view doesn't make me a nut job.

Democracy doesn't work where you aren't willing to listen or understand the views of others. But that's the way this has gone.

No one is "pandering" to me. If anything, I'd say its quite the opposite.

Irrespective of your views on the vaccine, the proposed covid password is nothing short of medical apartheid. It seems most people are accepting of this. I am not.
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Meh, no concern of mine, two clicks on my phone and my vaccine passport is good to go.


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Good luck to you. You don't seem willing to discuss any points I make accept make sweeping statements in often an aggressive manner. You can't discuss with people who aren't willing to discuss.

You are passionate with your view, I respect that. Good luck to you.

posted on 30/7/21

comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
Medical apartheid you say? Good, I want you people kept away from me.
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That's fine. Considering the vaccine doesn't stop the spread, it's a very narrow minded view.

You agree with medical apartheid, that's fine. I don't.

That's the bottom line.

posted on 30/7/21

It’s the f*cking pandemic of stupidity that we’ll never be rid of.

posted on 30/7/21

comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s the f*cking pandemic of stupidity that we’ll never be rid of.
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Oh I agree with that to some extend. Just on a different angle.

posted on 30/7/21

I can’t read your replies, I’ve filtered you, I don’t want anything to do with you people in real life or on social media.

posted on 30/7/21



Unbelievable. This is what this has come to

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 31/7/21

comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 1 day, 14 hours ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 21 minutes ago
Are none of you even a little bit open to the views of those a little apprehensive about the vaccine? Or is it just a full on attack for anyone not yet sure.

I'm not anti vax. However, I am uncertain about it and extremely wary. I have done alot of research and I believe the vaccine make no significant difference to spreading. I'd rather wait until I'm more informed without bias from mainstream media.

Interesting to see if anyone who is vaccinated feels the idea of a passport is improper. I guess, because you have all had it you don't care. But I feel this is extremely unethical.
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No vaccine, no entry.

Bring on the vaccine passports now, I don’t want to be forced to share any enclosed space with any Covid denying anti vaxx loons.
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You have and the vaccine so you are all good. Plus the vaccine doesn't stop the spread significantly whatsoever. You won't change your mind

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Stop pushing false information and get off the anti vaxx websites.

The vaccine absolutely lessens the risk of transmission, hospitalisations and death.
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From what I can see is that the link between covid and hospitalization and death has reduced.

But as for the vaccinations stopping the spread, the jury is still out on that so it is not definitive yet. Even in the USA they are keeping their mask mandates for vaccinated people for this very reason.

I find this debate really interesting because it raises some very interesting societal perceptions. Out of interest Automatic, are you pro-choice or pro-life?
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Pro choice.

It’s your choice weather you get a vaccine or not, and it’s the venues choice if they want to let you in without providing proof of vaccination.

Get your jabs.
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That is correct. It's up to the venue.

Once the government step in and mandate it is where I would draw the line which is where it is going. Soon they'll ask for a 3rd and 4th jab too. I also feel for those healthy people that ran for the vaccine and lost their fingers and toes as well as their lives because of the blood clots.

Tbh, I think we'll see another 6-9 months of this and see this hysteria pass.

One thing I don't understand from this whole argument though is that if you're jabbed, and it's effective then why would you care who is around you. You're protected. I also don't understand how the UK hasn't already reached herd immunity with all the people getting jabbed already. I thought that number was 60-70% of the population.

So many questions but the answers never seem to add up.

posted on 3/8/21

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 3 days, 6 hours ago
comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 1 day, 14 hours ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People Variant (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 21 minutes ago
Are none of you even a little bit open to the views of those a little apprehensive about the vaccine? Or is it just a full on attack for anyone not yet sure.

I'm not anti vax. However, I am uncertain about it and extremely wary. I have done alot of research and I believe the vaccine make no significant difference to spreading. I'd rather wait until I'm more informed without bias from mainstream media.

Interesting to see if anyone who is vaccinated feels the idea of a passport is improper. I guess, because you have all had it you don't care. But I feel this is extremely unethical.
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No vaccine, no entry.

Bring on the vaccine passports now, I don’t want to be forced to share any enclosed space with any Covid denying anti vaxx loons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You have and the vaccine so you are all good. Plus the vaccine doesn't stop the spread significantly whatsoever. You won't change your mind

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Stop pushing false information and get off the anti vaxx websites.

The vaccine absolutely lessens the risk of transmission, hospitalisations and death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

From what I can see is that the link between covid and hospitalization and death has reduced.

But as for the vaccinations stopping the spread, the jury is still out on that so it is not definitive yet. Even in the USA they are keeping their mask mandates for vaccinated people for this very reason.

I find this debate really interesting because it raises some very interesting societal perceptions. Out of interest Automatic, are you pro-choice or pro-life?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pro choice.

It’s your choice weather you get a vaccine or not, and it’s the venues choice if they want to let you in without providing proof of vaccination.

Get your jabs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is correct. It's up to the venue.

Once the government step in and mandate it is where I would draw the line which is where it is going. Soon they'll ask for a 3rd and 4th jab too. I also feel for those healthy people that ran for the vaccine and lost their fingers and toes as well as their lives because of the blood clots.

Tbh, I think we'll see another 6-9 months of this and see this hysteria pass.

One thing I don't understand from this whole argument though is that if you're jabbed, and it's effective then why would you care who is around you. You're protected. I also don't understand how the UK hasn't already reached herd immunity with all the people getting jabbed already. I thought that number was 60-70% of the population.

So many questions but the answers never seem to add up.
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It’s not 100% effective, it just lessens the risk of transmission, serious illness and death.

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