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one signing away

with Varane and Sancho on board we are now, imo, one signing away from a ridiculous strong first 11.

sure the keeper could be better but in DDG and Henderson we can get by.

the back four isnt going to ship many, not that it did by and large before Varane but its superbly improved.

we just need a CDM so we dont need Fred and McT and then we can let Pogba, bruno, Sancho, martial, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood, Amad etc loose on the opposition.

Any 5 of those will be enough to overpower the vast majority of the league, and with a watertight back four and a solid CDM we can play a higher line creating even more pressure now with Varane speed.

for all the talk of the pandemic and its impact on football finances, I guess we are seeing we are actually a very well run club who can flex our fiscal muscles while others who have been lauded in the past are in dire straits

posted on 29/7/21

posted on 29/7/21

posted on 30/7/21

Rio makes no mention of the academy or Fletchers role with it.

Now, you can either believe Rio, or the club and Fletcher himself, who had the following to say-

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.manutd.com/en/amp/news/detail/man-utd-statement-on-appointment-of-football-director-and-technical-director

Darren will work closely with John to add technical input and direction into all football and performance areas. He will focus on a co-ordinated and long-term approach to player and squad development, helping maintain the integral link between the Academy and the first team, aligned with Manchester United’s values and culture.

In this new role, the first in our history, he (Fletcher) will deliver technical advice across all aspects of the football department as well as contributing to the communication and delivery of our football philosophy across all areas of the club.

Darren Fletcher said: 

“It is great to be back with the club and I am delighted to be taking on this new role.  We are moving in the right direction and I am looking forward to continuing to work with Ole and his coaching team, and now with John as the Football Director, to help bring young players through and further develop the football side of the club.

So, there you go. Rio suggests Fletcher will be a cross.between a first team coach and a scout who tells.Murtough what the squad needs, where as the club and Fletcher himself describe the role as more of a bridge between the youth and senior squads, focusing on player / squad development.

Thank you

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/7/21

But the fact that part of Fletcher's role is to maintain that link between the academy and the first team doesn't also mean that he isn't also working with the first team. Before he got promoted to his new role he was already working with the first team and he states that "I am looking forward to continuing to work with Ole and his coaching team".

Ole said after Fletcher's promotion that he would still be coaching, but perhaps doing less coaching. Which indicates he will still be working with the first team.

Rio, who has been discussing the role with Woodward since 2019 and who helped form the structure of the role, has sated that Fletcher is working with the first team on the football pitch.

How on Earth you have come to the conclusion that Fletcher doesn't work with the first team is beyond me.

It is almost as baffling as your idea that Fletcher decides who goes to train with the first team, gets promoted to the first team squad etc.

posted on 30/7/21

The argument isn’t if Fletcher works with the senior squad.

Your argument was that I was incorrect in saying that the youth coaches and Fletcher, not Ole, are responsible for developing the academy players and deciding who will go on loan, and who will be promoted to the senior squad.

You were incorrect, as I have proven with the clubs press release, quotes from Fletcher himself, and the understanding of Fletchers role from a credible sports journalist.

Thank you

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/7/21

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 59 minutes ago

The argument isn’t if Fletcher works with the senior squad.
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The initial argument wasn't. But you called me a dope for agreeing with Robbing that Fletcher coaches the first team. After repeatedly inviting me to read up on what Fletcher's role was. I enjoying making you look like the fool you are.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/7/21

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago

The argument isn’t if Fletcher works with the senior squad.

Your argument was that I was incorrect in saying that the youth coaches and Fletcher, not Ole, are responsible for developing the academy players and deciding who will go on loan, and who will be promoted to the senior squad.

You were incorrect, as I have proven with the clubs press release, quotes from Fletcher himself, and the understanding of Fletchers role from a credible sports journalist.
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I have never once said that Fletcher isn't responsible for developing youth. Merely pointed out that Ole is also responsible for developing youth, as you were trying to take any credit away from him.

And no, you haven't proven anything at all. You have put forwards 1 line from a newspaper piece. A line that isn't supported by any direct quotes from the club. If you honestly think that Fletcher chooses who trains with the first team and gets promoted to the first team then good luck to you. You are even stupider than I believed. Once those players are in the first team squad that Fletcher will of course continue to develop them (even though you didn't think he worked with the first team), as will Ole.

posted on 30/7/21

This was notbing to do with discrediting Ole.

It was to correct the person who wrongly credited Ole with developing the academy players.

I said this was part of Fletchers role (along with monitoring the players progress and deciding on their next move,.or loans or senior squad)

You said you didn't think it was.

I quoted the club, Fletcher himself, and the very credible Independent.

You responded with Rio ' I forgot a drug test' Ferdinands opinion on the role, because he had a minor part in the planning of the re structure.

I know who I believe more reliable.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/7/21

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 minutes ago
This was notbing to do with discrediting Ole.

It was to correct the person who wrongly credited Ole with developing the academy players.

I said this was part of Fletchers role (along with monitoring the players progress and deciding on their next move,.or loans or senior squad)

You said you didn't think it was.

I quoted the club, Fletcher himself, and the very credible Independent.

You responded with Rio ' I forgot a drug test' Ferdinands opinion on the role, because he had a minor part in the planning of the re structure.

I know who I believe more reliable.
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Nobody said academy players that was you. They said youth. Stop lying.

The only part about Fletcher's role I disagreed with you about is the fact he chooses who trains with the first team and promotes players to the first team. There is nothing from the club that suggests that is the case.

You then said that Fltcher doesn't work with the first team. Rio, Ole and Fletcher all say different.

I think that you are also underestimating Rio's role in creating the position. He spoke with Woodward about the position to start with and was in contention. He regularly speaks to Woodward about the running of the club. Do a little Google and enlighten yourself. He also spoke to VDS about his role at Ajax to pick brains about his role and how it works. Given Rio's close relationship with Woodward, I'd expect that was all fed back to him.

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