staggeringly James transfer is the joint 4th highest received by the club for an outgoing player.
it is also the most profit received on a player post Fergie.
i think this truly does highlight just how shockingly bad out negotiations team have been over the years.
Dan James
posted on 8/9/21
Haven't we now lost out on millions from a sale and will have to pay him wages for a year before he leaves for free? He's also unlikely to figure much for us this season. I'm all for standing firm but £25m was too much for a player who isn't wanted by his club and with a year left on his contract.
posted on 8/9/21
The fact we offered Lingard an extention seems to suggest the club thought Lingard wants to stay or that we could then sell him on next summer. Either way it was pretty strange thinking by the club.
posted on 8/9/21
yep, tbh we have "stood firm" on a number of occasions over the past 5 years - rojo, darmian, romero - and all it has meant is that we've ended up paying wages for years to players who were barely featuring (or even not at the club) before selling them for a fraction of our "stand firm" price.
by some accounts we have done the same with pogba too, slapping a silly price tag on him, before possibly letting him walk away for nothing.
posted on 8/9/21
Don I think we should start a kickstarter for you so you can buy Pogba yourself next summer.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Don I think we should start a kickstarter for you so you can buy Pogba yourself next summer.
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get it up and running quick then, before culer gets hounded from the site
posted on 8/9/21
Think the main issue is the wages the players are on here. James probably wasn't on high wages which is why we were able to get a decent fee. Players like Lingard, Jones, Martial etc are probably on wages too high so selling them for a decent fee becomes an issue.
posted on 8/9/21
Lingard told Sullivan that he didnt want to sign for West Ham anyway, despite United offering him for £20m. Which is why West ham looked elsewhere.
Lingard is under contract. He doesnt have to move if he dosent want to. Rightly or wrongly whilst United are paying him £100k a week he thinks that if he shows enough form he will get still gametime.
posted on 8/9/21
Lingard has taken a leaf out of Oles book. Spurs were interested in signing Ole but he stated that whilst he was under contract at United he would rather play for United's reserve team and fight for his place than Spurs' first eleven
posted on 8/9/21
No he doesn't have to move, just like Jones and Bailley don't have to but I think most United fans would hope they would, not just to help the club but also give themselves a chance of playing again. I get that football is a relatively short career and players will want to earn as much as they can but it is still important for many to continue playing. I've read that Lingard is hoping to make the England WC squad next year, staying at United this season will dramatically lessen his chances of that happening. I guess it depends which he feels is more important, he knows when (not if) he leaves next summer he'll pocket a tidy signing on fee.
posted on 8/9/21
Chelsea have obviously done better than us at contract management, and maximising what they get for unwanted players. But it's not night and day. They've bought players for a lot and sold them cheaply. The way some people talk, you'd think they turned a handsome profit on the sales of Shevchenko and Torres. They have struggled to offload players who aren't good enough for them, like Ross Barkley. They aren't immune to the structural disadvantage of being at the top of the pyramid.
One other thing I missed from my previous post is that overall performance of the FC has an impact on these things too. When your team is successful, the perceived value of its players is higher. Even with someone on the fringe of the team it's less of a black mark not being a regular in a superb team than "can't even get into that side". And if a team is underperforming, other clubs know they are more desperate to close the gap. Perhaps our relative success in the transfer window recently (getting decent money for James; not getting fleeced for Sancho) is in part a sign of better management, and in part a sign that the market sees us operating from a position of greater strength than we had e.g. when we were throwing money at the likes of Di Maria and the wages of Sanchez.