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Is CHO going to be good enough for a career

at Chelsea?

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/blocking-hudson-odois-deadline-day-dortmund-transfer-was/3ss9ymzcpvd81lyvrplrrt62c

I think time is on his side still but I really don't know if he will make it at our club.

posted on 13/9/21

I'm reading with interest. Undoubtedly, CHO has talent, ability and potential. But he's not a right wing back - Villa attacked our right side on Saturday and we could have lost - yes, Saúl has most of the blame, but CHO has to help out Chalobah more. Chalobah was being overrun because Saúl and CHO were not in position.

Also, there is absolutely no doubt that he is not as threatening, not as confident as he was before his injury a couple of years back when you terrorised defences. He seems hesitant to try and beat his man now.

Maybe he needs a season out on loan playing week in week out. I think he should have been allowed to go to Dortmund this year because he is not going to develop and regain his confidence as a bit part right back.

comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)

posted on 13/9/21

He has a lot of talent, but I don’t think he has a great footballing brain. He reminds me of Joe Cole - skillful and quick (faster than Cole), but inevitably chooses the wrong options. At least with Cole he put in the effort, whereas I don’t see that with CHO. He’s forced to track back as a wing back, but you can see he just wants to stay upfront. He may be better as a winger in a different formation, but it will likely have to be at another club. Our forwards are just better than CHO - I can’t see him getting a look in as a winger/forward at Chelsea.

posted on 13/9/21

He reminds me of Joe Cole - skillful and quick (faster than Cole), but inevitably chooses the wrong options?

I would never have thought or have never seen anyone critique joe Cole about this? I thought his decision making was pretty good.

comment by CSTP (U1453)

posted on 13/9/21

Joe Cole was great

RWB is fine for CHO against bad or defensive teams. But Villa weren’t like that.

posted on 21/9/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
From an outside view, I think he is a very underrated player. His end product might not be all there, but he is a threat when he carries the ball, statistically one of the best as well. A quick player as well, he will be difficult for a lot of defenders to defend against.

If he can become more consistent with his end product, he has the potential to become one of the best wide players in the world. Whether that happens at Chelsea or not is a different story entirely.
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Well, color me shocked...you as an outsider is close to the mark and more clued-up on Hudson-Odoi than the clueless sheep with useless viewpoints that have commented on the subject will ever be (not the first or the last time I'll see inane remarks from these posters, with regards to certain players).
Callum' obvious talent, variety, mental capacity and the concept of development is way beyond the comprehension of these numbskulls (with the exception of 1 or 2).


You hit the post on the end product perspective though.

Disingenious and a fallacy (which I'll never subscribe to) to claim that his end product is lacking...
How can one be a top chance creator, top for progressive dribling and ball carrying into the box, top for passing/crossing into the penalty area, top for switching play, top for key passes, top for shot and goal creating actions in the underlying (advanced) metrics for two seasons-in-a-row and not have end product, a pure contradiction.
The epitome of consistent end product, highlights his extraordinary uniqueness & footballing IQ in comparison to the rest.

Not even to mention in the 19/20 was our highest assist-maker, bear in mind had just comeback from horrific (potentially) career ending injury (the worst injury an explosive attacker can incur..lost alot of calf muscle mass), damining indicment on the rest of the forwards.
Stupendous output is a testament to his tremendous mental fortitude. (If there is one thing lacking it's the managers trust & gametime, talent is head and shoulders above the rest)


I notice your lot have been sniffing around, making tentative enquires for some months.
Lets face it, your going to need to replace Mane very soon he's at the end of his shelf-life and Hudson-Odoi would be a perfect replacement on the left.
Your efforts will ultimately be in vain and futile though, just like Bayern' tried with their utmost charm offensive, to the extent that they offered him the iconic number 10 shirt (previously worn by Robben).
The club catagorically said no, value him highly.

If it were down to the loons on here he'd be sold and that would be the modern day equivalent of losing De Bruyne.

The day he's actually on the market (club won't ever do that, don't get any ideas), he'll be highly coveted (if not the most sought-after player)

posted on 21/9/21

Disingenious and a fallacy (which I'll never subscribe to) to claim that his end product is lacking...
How can one be a top chance creator, top for progressive dribling and ball carrying into the box, top for passing/crossing into the penalty area, top for switching play, top for key passes, top for shot and goal creating actions in the underlying (advanced) metrics for two seasons-in-a-row and not have end product, a pure contradiction.
The epitome of consistent end product, highlights his extraordinary uniqueness & footballing IQ in comparison to the rest.


Because being top of the progressive dribbles metric isn't an example of an end product. Goals and assists are and I'd argue chance creation as well, but even that's subjective. Top for switching play and key passes also isn't an example of having a consistent end product, goals and assists are the top metric.

I rate him highly and, like I said, if he improves his end product and his numbers, he will be one of the world's best. But when you consider he got 5 goals and 5 assists in 37 appearances last season for Chelsea and Mane has 3 goals in 5 appearances this season as well as 16 goals and 9 assists in 48 appearances last season, somebody "coming to the end of his shelf life" isn't doing too badly considering he's averaging a goal involvement every 0.53 games whereas an ideal replacement is averaging a goal involvement every 0.27 games. That's what I mean by end product.

He's obviously not as good as Mane and his potential is there and probably does need more consistent starts as well, but his end product needs to improve. As I say, I think he is very underrated, but his numbers need to look better if he is to be one of the world's best in his position.

posted on 21/9/21

Hudson-odoi's end product is great.

Assists is not the greatest metric.
Hudson-odoi's level of ingenuity doesn't truly reflect in assists stat.
Doesn't do Cal' outrageous output & playmaking ability justice, a massive disserve in fact.
Should already have been on double assists figure past two season, if not for the fact that he had to rely on (bad) finishing.

Assist numbers will improve when players start putting his high quality clearcut chances he creates in the back of the net.

Big chances created & key passes is the best metric for creativity, not assists.

posted on 21/9/21

I do agree he has been let down by poor finishing and yes, big chances and key passes are good metrics to use, but they are still subjective because what is classed as a big chance for example.

Poor finishing does knock his assist figures down, but he still has more to prove for me and he needs to get those numbers up. He probably does need to move away from Chelsea to do it though.

posted on 21/9/21

Once Hudson-odoi starts playing as a forward consistently, will 100% start scoring. Especially from the left.

For now as wingback he's restricted to just creating, and the best at it (which is pretty embarassing for the rest playing in their favoured positions).

posted on 21/9/21

comment by Chelseamf™®© (U1677)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago
Once Hudson-odoi starts playing as a forward consistently, will 100% start scoring. Especially from the left.

For now as wingback he's restricted to just creating, and the best at it (which is pretty embarassing for the rest playing in their favoured positions).
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This statement lacks a little something... probably fact based evidence

Call me old-fashioned but I think this is important

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