or to join or start a new Discussion

21 Comments
Article Rating 3 Stars

Defence

We have conceded 4 goals in 5 games in the league so far, 3 of them coming from the edge of the box. We still don't defend this area well.

On a positive note, our set piece defending has improved—the new set piece coach seems to have done the trick.

Also, DDG looks a bit more like his old self.

With Varane, I think we will defend the box better this season—it's defending outside the box that has to improve.

Also, there was talk on here that the addition of Varane with his pace may change our style. Anyone see anything different so far?

posted on 20/9/21

Bloodred

One of the things I said yesterday about McFred is that both do really good work for most of the time but both spoil it by really careless passing. And both were really guilty of it yesterday. It is also a major flaw with Lingard.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 20/9/21

comment by Red Russian (U4715)

Regarding change of style, I can't claim to have spotted this myself, but I read a professional analysis the other day that pointed out that when we're attacking against a team with a low block, we tend to have two players covering against the counter-attack now, whereas it was usually three last season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting. I haven't noticed it myself either.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 20/9/21

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
given that 2 of the 3 longer range goals have taken huge deflections, and that we've been chopping and changing quite a bit - varane coming in, but also 4 different midfield combinations in 5 games - i'd say we're doing ok, and you'd like to think that we'll become more solid as the team becomes more settled.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even with a settled midfield last season we weren't great defending this area. McFred aren't natural defensive midfielders.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 20/9/21

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
We’ve defended ok. 2 of our conceded goals have been flukes but there has also been some bad bad misses against us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's the problem when midfield don't shut that space down, you risk deflected shots.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 20/9/21

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 1 hour ago
Varane seems to have made a difference in how we setup. Can't remember the exact numbers but this season we rank first in terms of how far up the pitch our average position is. Something like 45.something meters whereas every year going back 5 or 6, we were always far lower. Under Jose I think we were 12th.

That higher line is most likely due to having lace to cover now. I can't find the article I read about it now but it was pretty clear that there's been a shift this season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really? Seemed like a "mid-block" to me, not as high as other teams defend.

See if you can find the article.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 20/9/21

Fred puts us under pressure constantly with his misplaced, 5/10 yard passes in positions that allow opposition to counter.

posted on 20/9/21

We have conceded 4 goals in 5 games in the league so far, 3 of them coming from the edge of the box. We still don't defend this area well.

**********************************

Midfield does not close down fast enough.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 20/9/21

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 12 minutes ago
We have conceded 4 goals in 5 games in the league so far, 3 of them coming from the edge of the box. We still don't defend this area well.

**********************************

Midfield does not close down fast enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, as well as sometimes being out of position.

posted on 20/9/21

Yes, as well as sometimes being out of position.

…..

We can agree on this. It is indiscipline or poor coaching if you have your midfield two both in far forward attacking positions at the same time.

One of them should be in the holding position.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 20/9/21

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Yes, as well as sometimes being out of position.

…..

We can agree on this. It is indiscipline or poor coaching if you have your midfield two both in far forward attacking positions at the same time.

One of them should be in the holding position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, one of the things that needs to be with worked on.

Sign in if you want to comment
RATE THIS ARTICLE
Rate Breakdown
5
1 Vote
4
0 Votes
3
0 Votes
2
0 Votes
1
1 Vote

Average Rating: 3 from 2 votes

ARTICLE STATS
Day
Article RankingNot Ranked
Article ViewsNot Available
Average Time(mins)Not Available
Total Time(mins)Not Available
Month
Article RankingNot Ranked
Article ViewsNot Available
Average Time(mins)Not Available
Total Time(mins)Not Available