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We could have used Mason Greenwood tonight I thought.

Huffed and puffed and ran out of ideas in the end ...

It's really rather baffling to me that Southgate cannot find a spot in this England team for a player like Greenwood.

posted 6 days, 18 hours ago

He took hookers back to his room during a global pandemic on his first England call up didn't he?

That wont help. Not that is disagree with the article in it's point.

O think Greenwood needs a bit of protection. He's good, but not that good, and seems to be relied upon as a bonafide match winner.

posted 6 days, 18 hours ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
He took hookers back to his room during a global pandemic on his first England call up didn't he?

That wont help. Not that is disagree with the article in it's point.

O think Greenwood needs a bit of protection. He's good, but not that good, and seems to be relied upon as a bonafide match winner.
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I think they were just girls not hookers? And Foden did the same. Don't think that is anything to do with Southgates's decision.

posted 6 days, 18 hours ago

Issue seems to be more with his family and the club wanting to protect him than Southgate, who wanted to call him up but came to the agreement it’d be best for him to stay with his club.

posted 6 days, 17 hours ago

There a a few good attacking options for Southgate's England. Mason should be in the squad no doubt, but I am not sure he is an automatic pick in the starting lineup as obviously as you suggest. He will have to work for his place as much as the others. But I agree he would have been a useful option for Gareth tonight.

posted 6 days, 16 hours ago

comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Issue seems to be more with his family and the club wanting to protect him than Southgate, who wanted to call him up but came to the agreement it’d be best for him to stay with his club.
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Where have you heard that?

posted 6 days, 16 hours ago

Southgate’s mentioned it a couple of times.

posted 6 days, 16 hours ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/mason-greenwood-england-manchester-united-b1930186.html

Said something similar in the other international breaks about talking things through with Greenwood and his family.

Seems like Greenwood, his family, England and United are trying to manage him carefully. It’s a good thing, if you ask me. Even if I’d like to see him playing for England.

If it leads to him having a better career further down the line then it’s good for all involved.

posted 6 days, 9 hours ago

comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 7 hours, 5 minutes ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/mason-greenwood-england-manchester-united-b1930186.html

Said something similar in the other international breaks about talking things through with Greenwood and his family.

Seems like Greenwood, his family, England and United are trying to manage him carefully. It’s a good thing, if you ask me. Even if I’d like to see him playing for England.

If it leads to him having a better career further down the line then it’s good for all involved.
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I recall reading something previously, but hadn't heard anything for this international break. Good to see not only the player, his family and the club playing the long game, but also Southgate speaking to them all and listening to what they have to say. At the moment Greenwood has a hell of a challenge on his hands at United with all the attacking players we have. Good on them all for recognising and accepting that.

posted 6 days, 9 hours ago

Seems a very strange situation if this is the case. Seems to be down to Southgate who thinks he and Bellingham are both not physically ready to establish themselves in both club and international football at the same time right now. I wonder what age Gareth/Mason's mum/OGS think is 'old enough' for Mason (and with Bellingham) to start playing for England regularly as well as their clubs. And also why he doesn't apply this to the likes of Saka and Foden

There is a school of thought in football who reckon that if you are good enough, then you are old enough.

posted 6 days, 8 hours ago



It seems they are all on the same page. I recall there being stories that United and Greenwood’s family weren’t happy with how things went with England on his initial call ups - not just the issue with the girls, but him on media duty and being asked about Maguire. So I suspect that’s come into their thinking as well. I get the impression that they don’t want to overwhelm him emotionally with all that entails being a young star for England and United, and that’s fair enough if they don’t think he’s quite ready for it. In addition to the competition he faces at club level, there’s strong competition in the England side and perhaps they see that as a bit of a distraction as well. If all Greenwood has to worry, and focus on, now is United then it’s no big deal.

Regarding the physical condition of the players it’s hard to say. It’s obviously something that would be judged on a case by case basis between the clubs and the national team. It’s not like there’s an aversion to using young players with England for this reason, Bellingham’s been called up loads of times already and maybe they feel it’s been too much. Obviously that’s not the case with Saka and Foden. But each player will be different.

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