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THST goes public

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10087683/Tottenham-Supporters-Trust-goes-public-questions-clubs-board-declined-meeting.html

Hitting the front page sports news online with the daily Mail, so it’s certainly caused an interest. #levyout #enicout

posted 2 weeks ago

ENIC OUT.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 4 seconds ago
ENIC OUT.
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Correction Billy

Levy out , ENIC out

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
But most fans were sick of the of Jose and wanted him gone. Had he won the league cup and got us into Europe why should he be sacked? You could argue the board listened to the fans. Were the players sick of Jose too? Possibly as results were not great.

Sacking him at the time they did was exactly what fans wanted way before the cup final. To many, he was a dead man walking. No doubt finances came into play but it's abit much to suggest finances were the ONLY reason. After the ESL thingy apparently Jose did not take team into training out of protest. This was one of the final nails in his coffin.
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Nope. Most of us wanted Jose gone months before. You can still sack him after he won the league cup. It was 10000000% a way of trying to save money because the possibility of Jose winning it meant a bigger payout, that’s the truth of it mate. Jose should have been sacked the moment we lost in that embarrassing Europa game. Not 2 days before a league cup final.
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Is if fact that he'd get a bigger pay out or just speculation to suit an agenda?

You may well be correct but to say you're 10000000% certain and that "nobody can deny it" makes me think I've missed something?

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
But most fans were sick of the of Jose and wanted him gone. Had he won the league cup and got us into Europe why should he be sacked? You could argue the board listened to the fans. Were the players sick of Jose too? Possibly as results were not great.

Sacking him at the time they did was exactly what fans wanted way before the cup final. To many, he was a dead man walking. No doubt finances came into play but it's abit much to suggest finances were the ONLY reason. After the ESL thingy apparently Jose did not take team into training out of protest. This was one of the final nails in his coffin.
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Nope. Most of us wanted Jose gone months before. You can still sack him after he won the league cup. It was 10000000% a way of trying to save money because the possibility of Jose winning it meant a bigger payout, that’s the truth of it mate. Jose should have been sacked the moment we lost in that embarrassing Europa game. Not 2 days before a league cup final.
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Is if fact that he'd get a bigger pay out or just speculation to suit an agenda?

You may well be correct but to say you're 10000000% certain and that "nobody can deny it" makes me think I've missed something?
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Well, nobody is going to admit it are they ? I think it’s pretty obvious mate

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 36 seconds ago
The desire for profit before trophies was pretty much confirmed by Levy during the All or Nothing doc when he said the first thing he wanted for Christmas was top 4, and the second thing a trophy.
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Not only that Spurtle, but the biggest red flag ever was the league cup final. We all wanted Mourinho out in the end, but to sack him a week before the league cup final and draft in Ryan Mason, just to save a few bucks in case Mourinho won it was scandalous. What should have happened was keep Mourinho at least until after the cup final. With his track record, he possibly might have won that. Then, end of the season, you sack Mourinho. Levy cares more about saving money than he does the club winning trophies
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Agreed Don. In hindsight maybe it wasn't the best decision, although at the same time I don't think Jose would have won it and I wouldn't have wanted him kept on had he won it. The real mistake is that he should never have been hired in the first place. Total naivety from the bald one.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 36 seconds ago
The desire for profit before trophies was pretty much confirmed by Levy during the All or Nothing doc when he said the first thing he wanted for Christmas was top 4, and the second thing a trophy.
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Not only that Spurtle, but the biggest red flag ever was the league cup final. We all wanted Mourinho out in the end, but to sack him a week before the league cup final and draft in Ryan Mason, just to save a few bucks in case Mourinho won it was scandalous. What should have happened was keep Mourinho at least until after the cup final. With his track record, he possibly might have won that. Then, end of the season, you sack Mourinho. Levy cares more about saving money than he does the club winning trophies
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Agreed Don. In hindsight maybe it wasn't the best decision, although at the same time I don't think Jose would have won it and I wouldn't have wanted him kept on had he won it. The real mistake is that he should never have been hired in the first place. Total naivety from the bald one.
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One thing we can both agree on Spurtle. #levyout #enicout

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 36 seconds ago
The desire for profit before trophies was pretty much confirmed by Levy during the All or Nothing doc when he said the first thing he wanted for Christmas was top 4, and the second thing a trophy.
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Not only that Spurtle, but the biggest red flag ever was the league cup final. We all wanted Mourinho out in the end, but to sack him a week before the league cup final and draft in Ryan Mason, just to save a few bucks in case Mourinho won it was scandalous. What should have happened was keep Mourinho at least until after the cup final. With his track record, he possibly might have won that. Then, end of the season, you sack Mourinho. Levy cares more about saving money than he does the club winning trophies
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Agreed Don. In hindsight maybe it wasn't the best decision, although at the same time I don't think Jose would have won it and I wouldn't have wanted him kept on had he won it. The real mistake is that he should never have been hired in the first place. Total naivety from the bald one.
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One thing we can both agree on Spurtle. #levyout #enicout
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Amen to that mate.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
But most fans were sick of the of Jose and wanted him gone. Had he won the league cup and got us into Europe why should he be sacked? You could argue the board listened to the fans. Were the players sick of Jose too? Possibly as results were not great.

Sacking him at the time they did was exactly what fans wanted way before the cup final. To many, he was a dead man walking. No doubt finances came into play but it's abit much to suggest finances were the ONLY reason. After the ESL thingy apparently Jose did not take team into training out of protest. This was one of the final nails in his coffin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Nope. Most of us wanted Jose gone months before. You can still sack him after he won the league cup. It was 10000000% a way of trying to save money because the possibility of Jose winning it meant a bigger payout, that’s the truth of it mate. Jose should have been sacked the moment we lost in that embarrassing Europa game. Not 2 days before a league cup final.
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Is if fact that he'd get a bigger pay out or just speculation to suit an agenda?

You may well be correct but to say you're 10000000% certain and that "nobody can deny it" makes me think I've missed something?
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Well, nobody is going to admit it are they ? I think it’s pretty obvious mate
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Is it? I think Levy simply spends too much time on here and makes terrible knee jerk decisions. He sacked Poch after receiving Sandy's incendiary letter and panicked into sacking Jose (thankfully) after reading about us lot moaning constantly on here. Get off the internet Daniel!

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 1 day ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 25 seconds ago
I will readily admit that I am probably bias on this issue as I don't like the THST, and never have. It was poor from the board to not give them a meeting, but what gives them the impression that they can just request meetings at will... I am sure they have their quarterly meetings or whatever they have, so just ask the questions then.... what exactly to they expect to happen between now and then when the transfer window isnt even open.
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I’m not a fan of them either, but the fans do need to have some sort of collective body to represent them and the questions being posed are perfectly reasonable and in my opinion reflect the concerns of every spurs fan I know. Relations between the board and THST apparently aren’t great anymore, made worse by THST calling for resignations after the ESL thing and the board stating that their fan representative on the board (new initiative post ESL) would not come from the THST. I don’t think they’ve even followed through on this promise.

There is such little communication from Spurs on anything other than how wonderful the stadium is. They’ve facked up repeatedly since 2019, but are charging supporters the highest prices in Europe, they have to be held to account as it very much feels these days like we are a golf club, entertainment venue and property developer with football as just one of our ventures. I think the questions are perfectly reasonable and have no issue with them being called out in public if they refuse to engage in private.
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They are a very badly framed set of questions from the THST and some of them are actually no business of fans.

They need to be a lot wiser and considered if they want to get some traction with the Board. Those questions come across to me as the THST just shouting the odds.

Spurs have many wealthy professionals as fans, the THST should utilise someones skill set if they want to converse with the Board of a multi-billion pound company.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 24 minutes ago
Those among you who say "ENC are not going anywhere" ....answer this question:

What will happen when Joe Lewis (now 84) dies?


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Yeah, coz who’s gonna invest all that money and make all those big decisions without Uncle Joe. Oh wait...

The answer is nothing. ENIC are a self sustaining multi national investment company with directors and a board etc. which is 30% owned by Levy as well. Spurs are a page in a portfolio, a dot on a ledger. Lewis has family including a son who is involved in the business, no doubt he’ll inherit his dads 70% and business will continue as normal. As long as THFC is generating a healthy profit ENIC will continue running it as is, regardless of whether Lewis is sipping pina coladas on his yacht or pushing up the daisys in a graveyard.
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What you say ACE might be true. But the son may have other ideas.
Do you know the son?
Do you know how often he agrees with his dad?
Do you know if he has no new ideas about business opportunities, maybe outside of football?
After all, his dad didn't make his money in football, he made it in Clubs ,restaurants, and currency trading. Football is simply a bank for Joe Lewis.
I do not accept your analysis of the future without Joe.

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