"We need to find something, we need to change"
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Well said
Pogba Quote
posted on 16/10/21
Question - on the basis that Ole is manager.
If we had also bought a top CDM (literally top draw could play in any team) in the summer or maybe got one in January, do people think that our fragility, inconsistency and inability to control games would remain?
Is that obvious missing piece still a fair justification for our up and down performances? Or would it still be the same even if we had Roy Gattusieira? i.e. down to Ole & staff?
posted on 16/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
Question - on the basis that Ole is manager.
If we had also bought a top CDM (literally top draw could play in any team) in the summer or maybe got one in January, do people think that our fragility, inconsistency and inability to control games would remain?
Is that obvious missing piece still a fair justification for our up and down performances? Or would it still be the same even if we had Roy Gattusieira? i.e. down to Ole & staff?
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I think we'd still struggle. The team look like strangers on the pitch nearly every game, regardless of personnel. You could give Ole and the lads the Man City or Liverpool squads and they would be disjointed
posted on 16/10/21
We still wouldn’t play well enough as a team even with this mythical defensive midfielder. Nearly three years in the job and we still look like a group of individuals.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
Question - on the basis that Ole is manager.
If we had also bought a top CDM (literally top draw could play in any team) in the summer or maybe got one in January, do people think that our fragility, inconsistency and inability to control games would remain?
Is that obvious missing piece still a fair justification for our up and down performances? Or would it still be the same even if we had Roy Gattusieira? i.e. down to Ole & staff?
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I think we'd still struggle. The team look like strangers on the pitch nearly every game, regardless of personnel. You could give Ole and the lads the Man City or Liverpool squads and they would be disjointed
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this is actually a very good question
I have been advocating that we bought a cdm probably longer thananyone here. In truth I believe a top cdm is the brains on the pitch and can make up for a lot of deficiencies that might exist in a team.
If I was a manager this will be my most important position.
I honestly believe a top cdm will improve us more than any other player could. be it messi, mbape halland. How much more I am not sure
posted on 16/10/21
I think you both might be right. We don’t play as a TEAM often enough, it’s something we’ve lacked since SAF.
Changing managers as often as we did (Ole aside he’s been given a very fair term) and chopping and changing so many players also was the main cause of this for me but seeing as it’s still the case now even with a relatively consistent team and same management for a while - I don’t know wtf it is. It could currently be due to Ole & staff as he’s really had the longest run vs the others right? Whereas the others had to inherit clear out, buy new, change philosophy etc.
All 3 (forgetting Moyesy tbh) had same issues to deal with and none of them have ended their time with us being happy, playing good football etc. We all wanted LVG & Jose to go and might be heading the same way for Ole.
Was talking to a chelsea mate of mine and I said to him one of the most impressive things about Chelsea is their ability over the past 10-13 years say to chop and change so much but still mostly perform well, be successful and win things. They play like a team regardless of what’s going on (I don’t watch them weekly so maybe be wrong) but they’re (generally over last ten years) everything we lack imo.
posted on 16/10/21
It’s because Chelsea are generally quick to try and rectify their errors. They make a lot of them, both in terms of management and squad building, but don’t let things fester. They sack the manager and either flog the players that are obvious mistakes, or loan them out for years.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
It’s because Chelsea are generally quick to try and rectify their errors. They make a lot of them, both in terms of management and squad building, but don’t let things fester. They sack the manager and either flog the players that are obvious mistakes, or loan them out for years.
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Their owner isn't interested in making money. He just wants to see his team do well. Owning Chelsea is a hobby for him. If he wanted to make money he'd not have chosen Chelsea.
We haven't got that luxury sadly. Our owners want a strong share price, they want to take dividends and they don't care about winning.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
It’s because Chelsea are generally quick to try and rectify their errors. They make a lot of them, both in terms of management and squad building, but don’t let things fester. They sack the manager and either flog the players that are obvious mistakes, or loan them out for years.
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Their owner isn't interested in making money. He just wants to see his team do well. Owning Chelsea is a hobby for him. If he wanted to make money he'd not have chosen Chelsea.
We haven't got that luxury sadly. Our owners want a strong share price, they want to take dividends and they don't care about winning.
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The thing our owners maybe aren't grasping is that the two aren't mutually exclusive. They'll realise soon enough when Newcastle arrive as a force.
posted on 16/10/21
But the major difference is that Roman knows how to get the club winning whereas the Glazers don’t.
posted on 16/10/21
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