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Honest Question

Based on today's performance, how many of the Utd squad would realistically get a place in the starting X1 at Chelsea, City or Liverpool?

posted on 25/10/21

comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gomez - no, we already have our own sick note in phil jones

Konate - too early to tell

Matip - nope

TAA - yes

Robertson - yes

Milner - nope


Keita - nope, been poor on a whole since you signed him

Thiago - nope... see gomez

Mane - yes

Firminho - nope

AOC
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And that's why you'll win fuсk all again
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yes, im sure we will never again win a trophy

posted on 25/10/21

comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 14 minutes ago
Gomez - no, we already have our own sick note in phil jones

Konate - too early to tell

Matip - nope

TAA - yes

Robertson - yes

Milner - nope


Keita - nope, been poor on a whole since you signed him

Thiago - nope... see gomez

Mane - yes

Firminho - nope

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Why you'd say no to Matip, Thiago or Firmino I do not know.
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because if we took VVD id have him alongside Varane in the starting 11

tiago is never fit, spent more time on the treatment table than the pitch.

as for Firminho i'd rather cavani... who id also have over ronaldo
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Why would you want Cavani over Firmino?

posted on 25/10/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 14 minutes ago
Gomez - no, we already have our own sick note in phil jones

Konate - too early to tell

Matip - nope

TAA - yes

Robertson - yes

Milner - nope


Keita - nope, been poor on a whole since you signed him

Thiago - nope... see gomez

Mane - yes

Firminho - nope

AOC
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Why you'd say no to Matip, Thiago or Firmino I do not know.
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because if we took VVD id have him alongside Varane in the starting 11

tiago is never fit, spent more time on the treatment table than the pitch.

as for Firminho i'd rather cavani... who id also have over ronaldo
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Why would you want Cavani over Firmino?
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why not?

Cavani is still a top class striker... before the start of this season the guy had 17 goals in 39 games for us... before this season Firminho had 21 in 100 games... i want my CF to score goals

posted on 25/10/21

comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by plain old dunc (U11713)
posted 14 minutes ago
Gomez - no, we already have our own sick note in phil jones

Konate - too early to tell

Matip - nope

TAA - yes

Robertson - yes

Milner - nope


Keita - nope, been poor on a whole since you signed him

Thiago - nope... see gomez

Mane - yes

Firminho - nope

AOC
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Why you'd say no to Matip, Thiago or Firmino I do not know.
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because if we took VVD id have him alongside Varane in the starting 11

tiago is never fit, spent more time on the treatment table than the pitch.

as for Firminho i'd rather cavani... who id also have over ronaldo
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Why would you want Cavani over Firmino?
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why not?

Cavani is still a top class striker... before the start of this season the guy had 17 goals in 39 games for us... before this season Firminho had 21 in 100 games... i want my CF to score goals
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He's not managed over 10 league goals for 2 seasons, one of them being for PSG in the French league...

Firmino wouldn't have to be your striker either, he could quite easily play in behind a CF as well as he's done many times before.

posted on 25/10/21

The most balanced squad is Chelsea's - but I think we lack in certain areas and Tuchel's system ensures we are competitive but we may fail to win a coouple of iportant games because of him.

Liverpool's system for their players is awesome. Power, speed and precision. Truthfully, they have gaps after their first eleven, but Klopp and the system paste over those cracks efficiently.

City have the Guardiola factor. The man is like a mini messiah and is capable of raising the game of his extremely technically gifted team. Surprised that teams don't attack city as that is their weakness.

What do United have? Nothing really. Greenwood I'd take, the rest, meh!!!!

comment by Ali - (U1192)

posted on 25/10/21

All of you are putting down United's players so much.

If we had a better manager things would be different.

SAF made some right average players look world class, because he knew what he was doing, and the players knew exactly what they were doing.

posted on 25/10/21

comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 7 minutes ago
All of you are putting down United's players so much.

If we had a better manager things would be different.

SAF made some right average players look world class, because he knew what he was doing, and the players knew exactly what they were doing.
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Find another manager as good as him though. Arsenal supporters were having orgsms when Wenger left but look at the reality. United's squad is 70% average. That 30% of class is what has kept them competitive. Another SAF would make them great but you won't find one.

posted on 25/10/21

comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 57 minutes ago
All of you are putting down United's players so much.

If we had a better manager things would be different.

SAF made some right average players look world class, because he knew what he was doing, and the players knew exactly what they were doing.
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To a certain extent, yes a better manager would help BUT not with the likes of Ronaldo & Pogba who are so wrapped up in their own hype they no longer function as part of a team.

McFred think they are much better than they really are and play exactly like that.

De Gea was like a rabbit in the headlights whenever a Liverpool player had the ball in the final third.

I see some Utd fans mentioning tactics & poor coaching but when did one of the world's most expensive defences forget the basics of defending?

comment by Ali - (U1192)

posted on 25/10/21

comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 7 minutes ago
All of you are putting down United's players so much.

If we had a better manager things would be different.

SAF made some right average players look world class, because he knew what he was doing, and the players knew exactly what they were doing.
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Find another manager as good as him though. Arsenal supporters were having orgsms when Wenger left but look at the reality. United's squad is 70% average. That 30% of class is what has kept them competitive. Another SAF would make them great but you won't find one.
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Yeah you're right, we won't get one but we can definitely do better than Ole!

comment by Ali - (U1192)

posted on 25/10/21

comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 57 minutes ago
All of you are putting down United's players so much.

If we had a better manager things would be different.

SAF made some right average players look world class, because he knew what he was doing, and the players knew exactly what they were doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To a certain extent, yes a better manager would help BUT not with the likes of Ronaldo & Pogba who are so wrapped up in their own hype they no longer function as part of a team.

McFred think they are much better than they really are and play exactly like that.

De Gea was like a rabbit in the headlights whenever a Liverpool player had the ball in the final third.

I see some Utd fans mentioning tactics & poor coaching but when did one of the world's most expensive defences forget the basics of defending?
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I've never rated AWB, Lindleoff or Maguire to be fair - these lot are like marmite on our board, you either think they're good or absolute crap and when you think those 3 total about 170 million worth, it's sickening.
Shaw is good enough for us, but the other 3 are not.

Can't really blame De gea, I mean he's watched our defence get embarrassed by Atlanta multiple times and now embarrassed by Liverpool.
He literally has no protection, it's as if the opposition can just attack him at will.
Must be quite demoralising.
I don't think De gea is an amazing keeper either, very decent yes but not on the levels of Van Der Sar for example. Plenty of better keepers than him in the PL now too.

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