Collapsing footballers

A look at the disinformation specialists (liars) and conspiracy theorists who have tried (sometimes successfully) to influence UK Government Covid strategies:

"I think we need to seed the thought that vaccines cause COVID..."

https://www.logically.ai/articles/hart-files-anti-vaccine-myths-westminster

https://twitter.com/jneill/status/1430799152506671106

comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Alpha Ralfa Boulevard (U4195)
posted 1 minute ago
Why do people say it's 'not being debated'?

Disinformation groups like the Great Barrington Declaration, Hart and Usforthem have all influenced government thinking at some point, delaying action, killing people and prolonging the pandemic.
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Its being constantly debated by the right people, TUX is annoyed that the grifters he listens to and likely pays subs to aren't involved.
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I actually feel quite sorry for him. They're a bit lost in the world, his sort, and they'll cling on to anything.
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You feel sorry for someone who has been retired for a good few years now at the age of 53?
You feel sorry for someone who warned everyone he knew as well as posting on these boards that something BIG was going to happen long before you had even heard of the word Covid in 2019?
You feel sorry for someone who has made many of his family and friends good money because he told them to invest in cryptocurrency a while back as their fiat currency was going to diddly?
You feel sorry for someone who has done the complete opposite to what any given govt has told him and come out the right side smelling of roses?

If you want to feel sorry for me then it's due to looking after the oldies in our family. That really IS hard work!

The difference between you and i is that i have never needed a comfort blanket or someone else to blame. Along with many here on this website, you are the ones in need of help.
Look at yourselves and what you are doing to those that follow. You should be ashamed.

comment by Auba to blame (U18355)
posted 8 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
Here are those links again dispelling the misinformation that COVID-19 vaccines are in any way linked to athletes collapsing or dying from myocarditis:

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2SK160
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I’m sorry but there is absolutely nothing in here to say there is definitive proof that these collapses are not linked to the vaccine. Of course, there is also no evidence that these collapses are linked to the vaccine either. As previously said, the causes seem to be completely unknown and all possibilities should be considered.
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How would you like researchers to prove that particular negative?

Possibilities should be considered when evidence emerges that suggests there may be a causal link between factor and outcome. At the moment, in this case, that doesn’t exist.

As for ‘all possibilities’, I don’t think there’s great value in considering the possibilities, for example, that when players put on left socks before right socks there is a greater risk of an on-field MI, or that these collapses are due to the rapid growth in the plains rat population in the Western Australian deserts.

Glad to see that common sense is prevailing on this thread.

A note from history. I’m old enough to remember when polio was an ongoing threat in society. My own cousin caught it and ended up with limited use of one of her arms.

It’s no exaggeration to say that the polio vaccine campaign in the 50s was a life saver for thousands. Mass vaccination of school children - in schools - more or less eradicated the disease. Anyone hear know anyone who has caught it in the last 60 years?

I’m just thankful that social media didn’t exist in the 50s so there was no opportunity for people to spread unfounded rumours about vaccines and frighten people into not getting jabbed.

By all means, if you’ve nothing better to do with your time, spread unfounded rumours about the private lives of celebrities (disgusting as that is) but when it comes to the difference between life and death leave it to people that have done the research and have some knowledge on the subject.

Rumour and speculation have no place in a public health discussion.

I love seeing some of the people these covid deniers listen to.

The ones I see most are:

Beverley Turner
Gillian McKeith
A ‘rapper’ called Zuby
Denise Welch
Right said Fred
Matt Le Tissier

They are literally taking medical advice from a celebrity big brother line up and I don’t know how humanity got to this point.

I first saw Myocarditis was first being linked to Covid in May 2020. It’s something I have done a lot of research regarding, due to things in my personal life - we also had a friends child collapse later that year due to organ failure linked with Myocarditis which due to a nasty bought of Covid. It is all pre-vaccine.

20 mins of research will show you plenty of athletes who were effected by it in 2020.

I was enraged when the Covidiots started saying that the list of possible outcomes of omicron (including blood clots and myocarditis) was basically a list of vaccine side effects, and that therefore omicron was just a cover for vaccine injuries and deaths.

Those things have been linked to Covid from very early on, and these people know it, but still they spout their unsubstantiated conspiracy garbage.

comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 18 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Alpha Ralfa Boulevard (U4195)
posted 1 minute ago
Why do people say it's 'not being debated'?

Disinformation groups like the Great Barrington Declaration, Hart and Usforthem have all influenced government thinking at some point, delaying action, killing people and prolonging the pandemic.
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Its being constantly debated by the right people, TUX is annoyed that the grifters he listens to and likely pays subs to aren't involved.
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I actually feel quite sorry for him. They're a bit lost in the world, his sort, and they'll cling on to anything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You feel sorry for someone who has been retired for a good few years now at the age of 53?
You feel sorry for someone who warned everyone he knew as well as posting on these boards that something BIG was going to happen long before you had even heard of the word Covid in 2019?
You feel sorry for someone who has made many of his family and friends good money because he told them to invest in cryptocurrency a while back as their fiat currency was going to diddly?
You feel sorry for someone who has done the complete opposite to what any given govt has told him and come out the right side smelling of roses?

If you want to feel sorry for me then it's due to looking after the oldies in our family. That really IS hard work!

The difference between you and i is that i have never needed a comfort blanket or someone else to blame. Along with many here on this website, you are the ones in need of help.
Look at yourselves and what you are doing to those that follow. You should be ashamed.

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What did I day about ego....

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
Facking hell, this place has become worse than YouTube
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Just came across this thread and this is what ran through my mind while reading it.

These nutcases are all over the place now. They've recruited well and now found in every nook and cranny.

comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 days, 11 hours ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
A mates Mother passed away with it, he had to go into the ward in a hazmas suit to say goodbye.

Mate you're being grifted by people smarter than you, you're the sheep.
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My mates dad died of Covid. The fact that he was a dead man walking for years due to cancer apparently became irrelevant............it was a Covid death, as they all have been. Go figure.
So why don't all doctors/nurses in the ward wear HazMat suits? (I've seen them).
Why didn't the Paramedics who turned up for my Mother-in-Law suffering breathing difficulties 3months ago turn up in HazMat suits?
And i ask again, where is this germ in the real world ie outside of the media?
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People are not allowed in ICU wards. So you are talking rubbish.

My wife was separated from us for months treating covid patients and was terrified of returning home as she was scared of infecting others.

My uncle caught it as well. Doctor trying to save lives and it put him on a ventilator.

People like you need to be locked up for spreading misinformation. You are a disgrace