Lockdown Incoming

I should say as well, blood samples 8n a lab does not equate to real world but just saying.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't the point of the modelling that the government does take action to avoid it getting to that level? The reason that we haven't hit the levels previously is the mitigations we have put in place as a result of the modelling (i.e. social distancing, face masks, vaccinations etc).
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The reason we haven’t hit those models is because the models were just that. Models.

And pretty much all of them fanciful and ridiculous at best. And that includes these current ones on Omicron. They simply do not stack up.

But let’s say for once they turn out to be correct this time. If so, then we are fwcked anyway because at the “modelled” infection rate, every single person in the U.K. who isn’t fully 100% protected will be exposed to and suffer in varying degrees before the end of this month.

The NHS might as well close its doors until the virus has swept through the country.
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OK so we're not acknowledging that the mitigations put in place based on the models have had any impact.

I suppose you also think that the models of Villa's decline under Dean Smith were completely wrong now, because they have picked up more points after his sacking? The new manager didn't change anything.

The whole idea of modelling is to allow mitigations to be put in place to prevent it. If that is done, then it should be seen as a success of the mitigations, not evidence that the model was wrong.

I guess the problem now is that people want to make their conclusions and will then only say or listen to stuff that supports it. So in this case, it's important to you to ignore the impact of mitigations as you've probably had enough of experts.
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Yes that’s right. I ignore modelling and the impact of mitigations.

ffs

If you want to blindly charge in and make sweeping and stupid assumptions based on the square root of fwck all then be my guest.

As for a comparison to a football club. Hahahaha
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You said that the reason we didn't hit the models was because they were models. So yes, you ignored the impact of the mitigations put in place following the models being drawn up.

Interesting that you complain about sweep statements though, whilst simultaneously making a sweeping statement that all Covid models are or have been fanciful and ridiculous.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't the point of the modelling that the government does take action to avoid it getting to that level? The reason that we haven't hit the levels previously is the mitigations we have put in place as a result of the modelling (i.e. social distancing, face masks, vaccinations etc).
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The reason we haven’t hit those models is because the models were just that. Models.

And pretty much all of them fanciful and ridiculous at best. And that includes these current ones on Omicron. They simply do not stack up.

But let’s say for once they turn out to be correct this time. If so, then we are fwcked anyway because at the “modelled” infection rate, every single person in the U.K. who isn’t fully 100% protected will be exposed to and suffer in varying degrees before the end of this month.

The NHS might as well close its doors until the virus has swept through the country.
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OK so we're not acknowledging that the mitigations put in place based on the models have had any impact.

I suppose you also think that the models of Villa's decline under Dean Smith were completely wrong now, because they have picked up more points after his sacking? The new manager didn't change anything.

The whole idea of modelling is to allow mitigations to be put in place to prevent it. If that is done, then it should be seen as a success of the mitigations, not evidence that the model was wrong.

I guess the problem now is that people want to make their conclusions and will then only say or listen to stuff that supports it. So in this case, it's important to you to ignore the impact of mitigations as you've probably had enough of experts.
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Yes that’s right. I ignore modelling and the impact of mitigations.

ffs

If you want to blindly charge in and make sweeping and stupid assumptions based on the square root of fwck all then be my guest.

As for a comparison to a football club. Hahahaha
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You said that the reason we didn't hit the models was because they were models. So yes, you ignored the impact of the mitigations put in place following the models being drawn up.

Interesting that you complain about sweep statements though, whilst simultaneously making a sweeping statement that all Covid models are or have been fanciful and ridiculous.
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Standard pub loudmouth stuff

Relax this is gonna be the end of covid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZngdhnXXog

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't the point of the modelling that the government does take action to avoid it getting to that level? The reason that we haven't hit the levels previously is the mitigations we have put in place as a result of the modelling (i.e. social distancing, face masks, vaccinations etc).
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The reason we haven’t hit those models is because the models were just that. Models.

And pretty much all of them fanciful and ridiculous at best. And that includes these current ones on Omicron. They simply do not stack up.

But let’s say for once they turn out to be correct this time. If so, then we are fwcked anyway because at the “modelled” infection rate, every single person in the U.K. who isn’t fully 100% protected will be exposed to and suffer in varying degrees before the end of this month.

The NHS might as well close its doors until the virus has swept through the country.
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OK so we're not acknowledging that the mitigations put in place based on the models have had any impact.

I suppose you also think that the models of Villa's decline under Dean Smith were completely wrong now, because they have picked up more points after his sacking? The new manager didn't change anything.

The whole idea of modelling is to allow mitigations to be put in place to prevent it. If that is done, then it should be seen as a success of the mitigations, not evidence that the model was wrong.

I guess the problem now is that people want to make their conclusions and will then only say or listen to stuff that supports it. So in this case, it's important to you to ignore the impact of mitigations as you've probably had enough of experts.
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Yes that’s right. I ignore modelling and the impact of mitigations.

ffs

If you want to blindly charge in and make sweeping and stupid assumptions based on the square root of fwck all then be my guest.

As for a comparison to a football club. Hahahaha
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You said that the reason we didn't hit the models was because they were models. So yes, you ignored the impact of the mitigations put in place following the models being drawn up.

Interesting that you complain about sweep statements though, whilst simultaneously making a sweeping statement that all Covid models are or have been fanciful and ridiculous.
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Oh please enlighten me as to which models have been close and then take that quantum leap where I claimed modelling doesn’t matter.

After that if you manage you can then try and work out in your own head why I believe mitigation doesn’t work.

In your own time.

comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't the point of the modelling that the government does take action to avoid it getting to that level? The reason that we haven't hit the levels previously is the mitigations we have put in place as a result of the modelling (i.e. social distancing, face masks, vaccinations etc).
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The reason we haven’t hit those models is because the models were just that. Models.

And pretty much all of them fanciful and ridiculous at best. And that includes these current ones on Omicron. They simply do not stack up.

But let’s say for once they turn out to be correct this time. If so, then we are fwcked anyway because at the “modelled” infection rate, every single person in the U.K. who isn’t fully 100% protected will be exposed to and suffer in varying degrees before the end of this month.

The NHS might as well close its doors until the virus has swept through the country.
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OK so we're not acknowledging that the mitigations put in place based on the models have had any impact.

I suppose you also think that the models of Villa's decline under Dean Smith were completely wrong now, because they have picked up more points after his sacking? The new manager didn't change anything.

The whole idea of modelling is to allow mitigations to be put in place to prevent it. If that is done, then it should be seen as a success of the mitigations, not evidence that the model was wrong.

I guess the problem now is that people want to make their conclusions and will then only say or listen to stuff that supports it. So in this case, it's important to you to ignore the impact of mitigations as you've probably had enough of experts.
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Yes that’s right. I ignore modelling and the impact of mitigations.

ffs

If you want to blindly charge in and make sweeping and stupid assumptions based on the square root of fwck all then be my guest.

As for a comparison to a football club. Hahahaha
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You said that the reason we didn't hit the models was because they were models. So yes, you ignored the impact of the mitigations put in place following the models being drawn up.

Interesting that you complain about sweep statements though, whilst simultaneously making a sweeping statement that all Covid models are or have been fanciful and ridiculous.
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Standard pub loudmouth stuff
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Wow

AFCON might be postponed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOerG5R290

Love how Boris is shirking even more responsibility. Whilst he won’t shut pubs and restaurants, he urges everyone to ‘think very carefully’ before going out. Ridiculous mixed messaging.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't the point of the modelling that the government does take action to avoid it getting to that level? The reason that we haven't hit the levels previously is the mitigations we have put in place as a result of the modelling (i.e. social distancing, face masks, vaccinations etc).
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The reason we haven’t hit those models is because the models were just that. Models.

And pretty much all of them fanciful and ridiculous at best. And that includes these current ones on Omicron. They simply do not stack up.

But let’s say for once they turn out to be correct this time. If so, then we are fwcked anyway because at the “modelled” infection rate, every single person in the U.K. who isn’t fully 100% protected will be exposed to and suffer in varying degrees before the end of this month.

The NHS might as well close its doors until the virus has swept through the country.
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OK so we're not acknowledging that the mitigations put in place based on the models have had any impact.

I suppose you also think that the models of Villa's decline under Dean Smith were completely wrong now, because they have picked up more points after his sacking? The new manager didn't change anything.

The whole idea of modelling is to allow mitigations to be put in place to prevent it. If that is done, then it should be seen as a success of the mitigations, not evidence that the model was wrong.

I guess the problem now is that people want to make their conclusions and will then only say or listen to stuff that supports it. So in this case, it's important to you to ignore the impact of mitigations as you've probably had enough of experts.
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Yes that’s right. I ignore modelling and the impact of mitigations.

ffs

If you want to blindly charge in and make sweeping and stupid assumptions based on the square root of fwck all then be my guest.

As for a comparison to a football club. Hahahaha
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You said that the reason we didn't hit the models was because they were models. So yes, you ignored the impact of the mitigations put in place following the models being drawn up.

Interesting that you complain about sweep statements though, whilst simultaneously making a sweeping statement that all Covid models are or have been fanciful and ridiculous.
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Oh please enlighten me as to which models have been close and then take that quantum leap where I claimed modelling doesn’t matter.

After that if you manage you can then try and work out in your own head why I believe mitigation doesn’t work.

In your own time.
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