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Covidiots

Since there isn’t much football to talk about let’s have a good old Friday off topic rants.

People’s stupid behaviour in the pandemic.

I’ll start.

People who wear their mask walking around outside. I can understand in busy areas but people walking alone in an empty street with a mask on is just overcautious and silly.

People who wear masks but not over their nose. What’s the point?

In Ireland and many other countries we are supposed to have a covid cert to get into bars and restaurants. Some obviously will refuse to comply but what I can’t stand is vaccinated people refusing to stay in these places if certs aren’t checked. If you are still frightened of of a virus you are vaccinated against and can still catch and spread with a vaccine then maybe a bar or restaurant isn’t the place for you.

What are your pandemic pet hates?

posted on 23/12/21

Rosso. I guarantee you there are positive asymptomatic staff treating patients who have not been tested as you usually test every 2 weeks usually. So there is a window. Furthermore if those staff were not there then many patients would die, especially patient in trauma situations etc needing rapid care. If there is a lack of staff, then that patient will be delayed and will likely suffer catastrophic damage.

posted on 23/12/21

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 4 minutes ago
Rosso - u don’t get the point. Obviously you don’t want people infected with viruses working with sick people. However most people are infected with things, but are asymptomatic. I can guarantee you if you test healthcare staff for mrsa many will be infected, and also for countless other viruses because we are human.

Most people are carriers for pathogens however many are asymptomatic and we don’t test for everything. However with Covid we are always testing and now many who are asymptomatic are now having to isolate.

However what do we do for patients who need treatment critically and there is no staff to treat them? What’s the option in a depleted healthcare service with no staff? The patient will suffer. Before we did not test people for things as much and the ppe was far worse than today. So people are probably safer now. But if we continue as we are there won’t be staff to treat patients so patients will die
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We may be human, but are we dancer?

posted on 23/12/21

The Situation is difficult. However, overall I do agree asymptomatic Covid positive staff should not be treating patients. However inevitably the lack of staff, which is in crisis atm, will lead to delays in treatment and deaths, especially in critical trauma situations. You can only stretch your staff so much. There is a tipping point. I guess that consequence has to be accepted

posted on 23/12/21

The trick is to prevent the lack of staff in the first place. Obviously. By controlling transmission.

Again, why do you think that nobody in healthcare administration is petitioning for asymptomatic but infected healthcare workers to be allowed and encouraged to come to work in hospitals?

Why do you think that literally all of the world’s leading epidemiologists are in complete disagreement with you?

posted on 23/12/21

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
The trick is to prevent the lack of staff in the first place. Obviously. By controlling transmission.

Again, why do you think that nobody in healthcare administration is petitioning for asymptomatic but infected healthcare workers to be allowed and encouraged to come to work in hospitals?

Why do you think that literally all of the world’s leading epidemiologists are in complete disagreement with you?
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2 reasons. The first as you say is a trick. It isn't guaranteed or possibly that feasible. Secondly, with the amount of people being asymptomatic workers in health care know many are, but, as I asked before, what is the alternative?

posted on 23/12/21

comment by Michael, this isn't right. 😭 (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
The trick is to prevent the lack of staff in the first place. Obviously. By controlling transmission.

Again, why do you think that nobody in healthcare administration is petitioning for asymptomatic but infected healthcare workers to be allowed and encouraged to come to work in hospitals?

Why do you think that literally all of the world’s leading epidemiologists are in complete disagreement with you?
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2 reasons. The first as you say is a trick. It isn't guaranteed or possibly that feasible. Secondly, with the amount of people being asymptomatic workers in health care know many are, but, as I asked before, what is the alternative?
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Why does there need to be an alternative. People found to have the virus won't be able to work, there is no alternative.

posted on 23/12/21

comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael, this isn't right. 😭 (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
The trick is to prevent the lack of staff in the first place. Obviously. By controlling transmission.

Again, why do you think that nobody in healthcare administration is petitioning for asymptomatic but infected healthcare workers to be allowed and encouraged to come to work in hospitals?

Why do you think that literally all of the world’s leading epidemiologists are in complete disagreement with you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2 reasons. The first as you say is a trick. It isn't guaranteed or possibly that feasible. Secondly, with the amount of people being asymptomatic workers in health care know many are, but, as I asked before, what is the alternative?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why does there need to be an alternative. People found to have the virus won't be able to work, there is no alternative.
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Sp what would happen if there aren't enough hospital workers?

posted on 23/12/21

comment by Michael, this isn't right. 😭 (U10408)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael, this isn't right. 😭 (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
The trick is to prevent the lack of staff in the first place. Obviously. By controlling transmission.

Again, why do you think that nobody in healthcare administration is petitioning for asymptomatic but infected healthcare workers to be allowed and encouraged to come to work in hospitals?

Why do you think that literally all of the world’s leading epidemiologists are in complete disagreement with you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2 reasons. The first as you say is a trick. It isn't guaranteed or possibly that feasible. Secondly, with the amount of people being asymptomatic workers in health care know many are, but, as I asked before, what is the alternative?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why does there need to be an alternative. People found to have the virus won't be able to work, there is no alternative.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sp what would happen if there aren't enough hospital workers?
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There will be less medical help. Then selfish cants can ponder their brilliant thinking while aunt betty dies in a hospital corridor.

posted on 23/12/21

Rosso - in disagreement with what? I’m not arguing for sick staff to work 😂 I’m saying the consequences of them not working are real. This virus is highly transmissible and it’s very hard to avoid unless you shut everything down completely. So that’s not gonna happen and this new variant is way more transmissible than previous. So the only real solution is to have more staff. Government is also reducing the isolation period and talk of only 5 days soon. That’s probably how they are trying to get around this issue

posted on 23/12/21

comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Michael, this isn't right. 😭 (U10408)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Whiney and easily offended! (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael, this isn't right. 😭 (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
The trick is to prevent the lack of staff in the first place. Obviously. By controlling transmission.

Again, why do you think that nobody in healthcare administration is petitioning for asymptomatic but infected healthcare workers to be allowed and encouraged to come to work in hospitals?

Why do you think that literally all of the world’s leading epidemiologists are in complete disagreement with you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2 reasons. The first as you say is a trick. It isn't guaranteed or possibly that feasible. Secondly, with the amount of people being asymptomatic workers in health care know many are, but, as I asked before, what is the alternative?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why does there need to be an alternative. People found to have the virus won't be able to work, there is no alternative.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sp what would happen if there aren't enough hospital workers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There will be less medical help. Then selfish cants can ponder their brilliant thinking while aunt betty dies in a hospital corridor.
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That's the Christmas spirit! Let them die!

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