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The game before the offside rule?

One for the older generation. There have been quite a few rule changes in football over the years, some big, some stupid. Most recently, we have introduced VAR, which has taken something from the game I think, a huge thing as well: emotion.

I wanted to know how certain other changes affected football? Like GK gloves, was there a marked improvement to catching/saving?

I remember the pass-back rule being introduced, which helped with the speed of the game. And helped dethrone L’pool

Offside is the big one though. What was the game like before? Hard to imagine people just brazenly stood behind the defence waiting for the ball, a la RvN. Did it take time for players to catch on? Any early tweaks?

posted on 22/12/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 seconds ago
I don't actually think VAR has taken emotion out of the game, just potentially the immediacy of celebrating a goal.
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Is that not the whole point of football? That primal instinct. Imagine a caveman catching a mammoth then having to wait 5 minutes for a decision from VAR on whether he did or not, whilst you and the mammoth stand there anticipating the decision. Kind of kills the original moment.

And that is essentially what sports replace, primal instincts.
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Harness, not replace.
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Basically, no that's not the point of football.
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Yeah. Do some reading. Over the last five million years, part of our brain evolved a talent for raiding. A desire came with that talent. Even chimps play physical group games as they unknowingly prepare for future battles. Today, you experience that desire as a need to compete, play sports, or tackle war games on your X-Box. Just an example.

There are others explaining fan behaviour.
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And just to let you know, that still isn't what football is about.
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It is the very reason we have sports like football. What in the HELL are you on about?

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 seconds ago
I don't actually think VAR has taken emotion out of the game, just potentially the immediacy of celebrating a goal.
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Is that not the whole point of football? That primal instinct. Imagine a caveman catching a mammoth then having to wait 5 minutes for a decision from VAR on whether he did or not, whilst you and the mammoth stand there anticipating the decision. Kind of kills the original moment.

And that is essentially what sports replace, primal instincts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Harness, not replace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Basically, no that's not the point of football.
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Yeah. Do some reading. Over the last five million years, part of our brain evolved a talent for raiding. A desire came with that talent. Even chimps play physical group games as they unknowingly prepare for future battles. Today, you experience that desire as a need to compete, play sports, or tackle war games on your X-Box. Just an example.

There are others explaining fan behaviour.
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And just to let you know, that still isn't what football is about.
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It is the very reason we have sports like football. What in the HELL are you on about?
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https://www.willistonian.org/why-do-we-play-sports/

If you find primal instinct in this, let me know.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 seconds ago
I don't actually think VAR has taken emotion out of the game, just potentially the immediacy of celebrating a goal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is that not the whole point of football? That primal instinct. Imagine a caveman catching a mammoth then having to wait 5 minutes for a decision from VAR on whether he did or not, whilst you and the mammoth stand there anticipating the decision. Kind of kills the original moment.

And that is essentially what sports replace, primal instincts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Harness, not replace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Basically, no that's not the point of football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah. Do some reading. Over the last five million years, part of our brain evolved a talent for raiding. A desire came with that talent. Even chimps play physical group games as they unknowingly prepare for future battles. Today, you experience that desire as a need to compete, play sports, or tackle war games on your X-Box. Just an example.

There are others explaining fan behaviour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And just to let you know, that still isn't what football is about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is the very reason we have sports like football. What in the HELL are you on about?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.willistonian.org/why-do-we-play-sports/

If you find primal instinct in this, let me know.
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Lol a survey of kids to ask them why they play sports. One thinks that one may be missing the bigger picture point. The answers are hidden within that article if you look hard enough.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by No Love AKA Mamba - not home right now as I'm out rioting and looting with BLM and my right hand man Sizzle (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 5 minutes ago
The offside rule was introduced in 1863. I can however confirm that the pass back rule had a devastating impact on Alan Hansen's game.
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Not allowing the goalkeeper to pick up a back pass ruined Liverpool for 30 years
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Why did the other clubs Like United not use the back pass to establish their dominance and themselves as the greatest club side this country has produced?
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Good point, Mamba. I think the other clubs were battling for the soul of football to maintain the beauty of the game we all fell in love with.
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Then they're facking stoopid beyond belief.

Backpass Liverpool will keep our league titles and European , thankyou very much

posted on 22/12/21

comment by No Love AKA Mamba - not home right now as I'm out rioting and looting with BLM and my right hand man Sizzle (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by No Love AKA Mamba - not home right now as I'm out rioting and looting with BLM and my right hand man Sizzle (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 5 minutes ago
The offside rule was introduced in 1863. I can however confirm that the pass back rule had a devastating impact on Alan Hansen's game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not allowing the goalkeeper to pick up a back pass ruined Liverpool for 30 years
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why did the other clubs Like United not use the back pass to establish their dominance and themselves as the greatest club side this country has produced?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point, Mamba. I think the other clubs were battling for the soul of football to maintain the beauty of the game we all fell in love with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Then they're facking stoopid beyond belief.

Backpass Liverpool will keep our league titles and European , thankyou very much
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It used to be the only form of entertainment where the villain usually won.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 6 hours, 11 minutes ago
Hahaha shiiit was it that long ago?
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facksakes...when did you think it was introduced....1990

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
VAR is great. It proves without doubt that the refs are either terrible or corrupt. No one who understands football can watch several replays yet consistently choose the wrong decision
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nope..the very essence of insanity really

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Incidentally, who has been caught out at a match shouting offside from a throw in? The brain cannot respond quick enough when seeing a player being played the ball in an offside position to then remember that you can't be offside from a throw in. It's just instinct. So many poor blokes have been caught out by it and laughed at even though they know the laws of the game.
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you must've felt a right tiit Barry...

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Incidentally, who has been caught out at a match shouting offside from a throw in? The brain cannot respond quick enough when seeing a player being played the ball in an offside position to then remember that you can't be offside from a throw in. It's just instinct. So many poor blokes have been caught out by it and laughed at even though they know the laws of the game.
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you must've felt a right tiit Barry...


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How about directly after half time when you have not fully adjusted to the fact that the teams are playing the opposite way and there is suddenly a chance at the end your team was shooting towards first half and you jump up and shout "yeeeeaaahhh......ooohh" when it was actually the opposition who had the chance. That's probably worse. Happened a few times.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
Incidentally, who has been caught out at a match shouting offside from a throw in? The brain cannot respond quick enough when seeing a player being played the ball in an offside position to then remember that you can't be offside from a throw in. It's just instinct. So many poor blokes have been caught out by it and laughed at even though they know the laws of the game.
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you must've felt a right tiit Barry...


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How about directly after half time when you have not fully adjusted to the fact that the teams are playing the opposite way and there is suddenly a chance at the end your team was shooting towards first half and you jump up and shout "yeeeeaaahhh......ooohh" when it was actually the opposition who had the chance. That's probably worse. Happened a few times.
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Cheerleaders with big....




arrows...that'll sort it

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