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Novax Djokovic’s officially been deported

A victory for common sense 👏👏👏

posted 7 hours, 11 minutes ago

Aye and what I was merely saying is there’s no consensus as yet… I wasn’t saying it’d go one way or other, just that it’s all very new and there’s clearly no consensus yet. Which that paper does show.

posted 7 hours, 7 minutes ago

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago

Not really? Are you seriously expecting a clear scientific consensus in less than a year.

Those most are risk are the young and kids as there at virtually no risk from covid, who have only been getting vaxxed for a few months. Was only 6 months ago or so AZ was banned for under 30s, Moderna in some countries just a few months, couple weeks ago Japan added it as an official complication risk of vaccine. It’s all new. Clearly a risk of both. For older folks it’s obv not a worry though given they’ll be at much greater risk from covid than vaccine anyway.

Here’s an Oxford study below too, for older it’s in line with what your saying, but for younger risk from vaccine appears greater

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full
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Please read this. It's from the same website:

"What is an unrefereed preprint?

Before formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by “peer review.” In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts—called “referees”—who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods, and conclusions. Typically a journal will only publish an article once the editors are satisfied that the authors have addressed referees’ concerns and that the data presented support the conclusions drawn in the paper.

Because this process can be lengthy, authors use the medRxiv service to make their manuscripts available as “preprints” before certification by peer review, allowing

other scientists to see, discuss, and comment on the findings immediately. Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.

We also urge journalists and other individuals who report on medical research to the general public to consider this when discussing work that appears on medRxiv preprints and emphasize it has yet to be evaluated by the medical community and the information presented may be erroneous."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/what-unrefereed-preprint


As an aside, I've been living with a fully qualified cardiologist for 25+ years, and spent nearly half of that time translating medical research intended for publication. If there's one thing I've learnt in all this time about medical research, is that I don't have an effing clue of how to correctly interpret the data. It's way, way, way more complicated than first meets the eye, and it's extremely easy to infer and/or mislead other people into believing stuff that the research doesn't back up.

Putting this kind of research in the hands of lay people is like handing a chimp a gun.
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It's why the most intelligent and informed are less confident about what they know than the least intelligent and least informed.

posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago

Not really? Are you seriously expecting a clear scientific consensus in less than a year.

Those most are risk are the young and kids as there at virtually no risk from covid, who have only been getting vaxxed for a few months. Was only 6 months ago or so AZ was banned for under 30s, Moderna in some countries just a few months, couple weeks ago Japan added it as an official complication risk of vaccine. It’s all new. Clearly a risk of both. For older folks it’s obv not a worry though given they’ll be at much greater risk from covid than vaccine anyway.

Here’s an Oxford study below too, for older it’s in line with what your saying, but for younger risk from vaccine appears greater

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please read this. It's from the same website:

"What is an unrefereed preprint?

Before formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by “peer review.” In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts—called “referees”—who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods, and conclusions. Typically a journal will only publish an article once the editors are satisfied that the authors have addressed referees’ concerns and that the data presented support the conclusions drawn in the paper.

Because this process can be lengthy, authors use the medRxiv service to make their manuscripts available as “preprints” before certification by peer review, allowing

other scientists to see, discuss, and comment on the findings immediately. Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.

We also urge journalists and other individuals who report on medical research to the general public to consider this when discussing work that appears on medRxiv preprints and emphasize it has yet to be evaluated by the medical community and the information presented may be erroneous."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/what-unrefereed-preprint


As an aside, I've been living with a fully qualified cardiologist for 25+ years, and spent nearly half of that time translating medical research intended for publication. If there's one thing I've learnt in all this time about medical research, is that I don't have an effing clue of how to correctly interpret the data. It's way, way, way more complicated than first meets the eye, and it's extremely easy to infer and/or mislead other people into believing stuff that the research doesn't back up.

Putting this kind of research in the hands of lay people is like handing a chimp a gun.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's why the most intelligent and informed are less confident about what they know than the least intelligent and least informed.
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Good thing I was saying there’s no consensus then

posted 6 hours, 36 minutes ago

Djok deported...well done Australia

First defending champion to get knocked out after only missing two shots...who knew...

posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago

hopefully all other countries with rules stick too them n he can end his career playing x-ibitian games in Dubai

comment by Robbb (U22716)

posted 6 hours, 22 minutes ago

500

posted 5 hours, 49 minutes ago

If there's one thing I've learnt in all this time about medical research, is that I don't have an effing clue of how to correctly interpret the data. It's way, way, way more complicated than first meets the eye, and it's extremely easy to infer and/or mislead other people into believing stuff that the research doesn't back up.

Putting this kind of research in the hands of lay people is like handing a chimp a gun.

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I’ve thought about this a lot. We’re watching THREE highly complicated processes unfold simultaneously:

1) The behaviour of a new virus
2) The efficacy of new vaccines, rolled out at unprecedented speed and scale
3) The political response to the virus, and people’s response to the political response

And yet the world is full of fools who think they’ve uncovered evidence of a sinister plot when something appears contradictory or illogical to them. As if this was just going to be a simple, smooth journey from start to finish

posted 5 hours, 45 minutes ago

yer
we all shud know by now that guvmints r ass-backward n uncapabul of complex plots or even running anything even half competantly

posted 5 hours, 40 minutes ago

What happened to covid deniers? They were the original anti vaxxers of this pandemic. Or did they give up on that when their leader got covid, then quietly got vaccinated to stop himself from dying?

posted 5 hours, 38 minutes ago

am sure their r still some around

Trump is really confusing his cultists as he is now pro-vax

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