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Is Neves good enough?

So we are being linked with Neves again. It is only The Sun, so likely a load of rubbish anyway. But assuming the rumour is true, is he good enough?

I have no doubt that he would be an improvement on what we have, but is that improvement enough? Or are there better options that we should be looking at?

posted on 6/1/22

comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 2 minutes ago
These stats seem quite impressive.

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I'm not sure they're that impressive given the comparison is between Neves and our midfielders. I'm sure there are a lot of midfielders out there who would come out on top against our midfielders in each of those areas.

If you compare him to similar players around Europe's top five leagues, he doesn't rank that highly in any particular metric.

One of the things about Neves that's always struck me is his short to mid range passing isn't as effective as his long range passing so if you're after a controller and high volume passer who's also progressive over shorter distances, Neves isn't really that player.
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Yes. You're right there in terms of them being against our current midfielders.

I'll be honest. I'm only going by what I know. I don't watch much football outside United and some PL games nowadays. Just not into it quite as much as I was.

If Neves was signed do you think he could make the adjustment with the shorter passing. Also, I recall you were a fan of Weigl. Is he still someone you'd go for as a leftfield option? I see he's not played that much for Benfica this season.

posted on 6/1/22

If Neves was signed do you think he could make the adjustment with the shorter passing.

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Possibly but I'd just sign somebody who's already an established short passer among other things.

Yeah I was a big fan of Weigl when he was at Dortmund but he just doesn't seem to be that good anymore unfortunately.

posted on 6/1/22

comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 43 seconds ago
If Neves was signed do you think he could make the adjustment with the shorter passing.

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Possibly but I'd just sign somebody who's already an established short passer among other things.

Yeah I was a big fan of Weigl when he was at Dortmund but he just doesn't seem to be that good anymore unfortunately.
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Shame about Weigl.

Like I said above I don't watch enough football to have an opinion on who we should buy but surely there's someone out there in the world that can help Ralf provide the 'control' he's looking for in midfield.

posted on 6/1/22

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I think he's good enough. Not only that I also think he's got a good character about him too and that's something we'll definitely need. Wasn't he a young captain at Porto? Now would be the ideal time for him to make the step up as he's still only quite young.
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Step up?
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I knew someone would state this. Well, unless you're deluded going from Wolves to United is a step up. That's just the way it is. Same as I'd say Birmingham to Wolves is a step up even though I remember them winning a trophy.
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Exactly. Some fans are plain idiots when they make statements like this. We are having a horrendous season yet we are still above the mighty Wolves.

posted on 6/1/22

I don't watch enough either. So generally have no opinion on players not in the PL, and often not even then.

posted on 6/1/22

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago

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Exactly. Some fans are plain idiots
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you're dealing with blackcountry, the morespurs of the midlands

posted on 6/1/22

comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
These stats seem quite impressive.

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I'm not sure they're that impressive given the comparison is between Neves and our midfielders. I'm sure there are a lot of midfielders out there who would come out on top against our midfielders in each of those areas.

If you compare him to similar players around Europe's top five leagues, he doesn't rank that highly in any particular metric.

One of the things about Neves that's always struck me is his short to mid range passing isn't as effective as his long range passing so if you're after a controller and high volume passer who's also progressive over shorter distances, Neves isn't really that player.
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As demonstrated in our last vague, our players don't have any short range passing skills. Any half decent passing from Neves will improve us.

posted on 6/1/22

Any half decent passing from Neves will improve us.

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Yes but we should be striving for more than just half decent.

posted on 6/1/22

Article title should read "Is Neves too good for United"!!

When he leaves Wolves it will be to challenge for medals, not scrape around mid table at a club in terminal decline

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 6/1/22

Always wanted Neves, he’s quality.

He works hard, has great positioning, tenacious, a good passer of my he ball and real threat from outside the box. A bit of everything to his game really.

More to the point, he’s a team player and will work for the manager.

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