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Time for the world to go vegan?

We’ve seen with Covid that the close relationship between man and animals (no pun intended) used as a food source can lead to world altering outbreaks of respiratory diseases. I saw the other day in the UK there was another outbreak of bird flu and while Covid has obviously been bad you can’t help but worry that one day there will be a flu that really facks up our existence on this planet.

Add to that the huge contribution to climate change which comes from the mass farming of livestock I ask this question - is it time for the world to go vegan?

While I can’t see it happening anytime soon I reckon if I woke up from a cryogenic chamber ‘Demolition Man’ style in 100 years the eating habits of the planet will have changed massively and geared less towards livestock and poultry markets and more towards faux-meat which feed more people and take less of a toll on the planet and our diets.

posted on 8/1/22

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Please help the cow sanctuary save this magnificent beast from extinction from these vegan headcases

posted on 8/1/22

comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 7 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Robbb (U22716)
posted 8 minutes ago
IOAG, I feel at some point you’ve had a bad experience with a vegan or two.
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They made him drop his leg of serrano ham and he’s never forgotten.
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I don't eat that crap. Texturised acorn is bloody superb though.

posted on 8/1/22

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 7 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Robbb (U22716)
posted 8 minutes ago
IOAG, I feel at some point you’ve had a bad experience with a vegan or two.
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They made him drop his leg of serrano ham and he’s never forgotten.
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I don't eat that crap. Texturised acorn is bloody superb though.
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I’m not going to lie, I’d facking smash an entire crate of texturised acorns right now.

I mean, I don’t know what they even are, but I finished a bag of salt and vinegar crisps about six glasses of red ago and am ready to eat anything that even sounds like it might be food now.

posted on 8/1/22

Anyone into hunting?

I think it's the way to go

posted on 8/1/22

comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 15 seconds ago
Anyone into hunting?

I think it's the way to go
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my uncle n cousin go hunting in Pennsylvania cuppla times a yr. 'hunt' rabbits n doves mostly

posted on 8/1/22

comment by 4zA - have u ever seen something go down, to k... (U22472)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 15 seconds ago
Anyone into hunting?

I think it's the way to go
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my uncle n cousin go hunting in Pennsylvania cuppla times a yr. 'hunt' rabbits n doves mostly
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I used to hunt doves as a kid. I say hunt I never shot them or anything. More lay traps, basket and stick with rope.

Usually would feed them and let them go. Occasionally eat one or two.

posted on 8/1/22

Actually it would have been wood pigeons come to think of it. Where I grew up the name is same/similar to what doves are called.

posted on 8/1/22

comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by 4zA - have u ever seen something go down, to k... (U22472)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 15 seconds ago
Anyone into hunting?

I think it's the way to go
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my uncle n cousin go hunting in Pennsylvania cuppla times a yr. 'hunt' rabbits n doves mostly
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I used to hunt doves as a kid. I say hunt I never shot them or anything. More lay traps, basket and stick with rope.

Usually would feed them and let them go. Occasionally eat one or two.


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my Uncle n cousin r from Ischia ware they have shot every single bird on the island

posted on 8/1/22

comment by Miyagi doh 😣 (U19849)
posted 9 minutes ago
Actually it would have been wood pigeons come to think of it. Where I grew up the name is same/similar to what doves are called.
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Nah they were totally different birds!

posted on 9/1/22

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 16 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago

I don't eat that crap. Texturised acorn is bloody superb though.
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I’m not going to lie, I’d facking smash an entire crate of texturised acorns right now.

I mean, I don’t know what they even are, but I finished a bag of salt and vinegar crisps about six glasses of red ago and am ready to eat anything that even sounds like it might be food now.
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"Jamón ibérico de bellota", which literally translates to "Iberian acorn ham."

Most of the serrano stuff you get in supermarkets is rather poor quality, nothing like the ham off a free range Iberian pig that's been naturally raised foraging for acorns in the oak forests of western and southwestern Spain. It has a depth and complexity of flavour that's completely unique, although some would have you believe it's just the salt.

It's the same type of forest and pig you might already know from large areas of eastern/southeastern Portugal. I know Alentejano PDO ham comes from the same breed, but I've never tried it so I don't know how it compares.

Proper 100% ibérico de bellota is extremely expensive though, as you might expect. Roughly €150/kg once you remove the excess fat and the bone. And of course, if you're spending that kind of money, you want a really good wine to go with it. Basically, unless you're loaded it's something only for exceptional occasions.

In supermarkets, the better stuff you find is generally cross-bred and feed-fattened, labelled as "50% ibérico de cebo." It's about €50/kg off the bone and still a pale shadow of the real thing, but a lot better than most serranos.

As to the black Iberian pig itself, this is an interesting excerpt from the Wikipedia entry:

"It is a rare example in world swine production where the pig contributes so decisively to the preservation of the ecosystem. The Iberian breed is currently one of the few examples of a domesticated breed which has adapted to a pastoral setting where the land is particularly rich in natural resources, in this case acorns from the holm oak, gall oak and cork oak."

In reality these are foods that should only be eaten locally, because the only way of meeting international demand is to increase production beyond what is naturally possible. That's when you either get stocks being depleted to the brink of extinction, as in the case of the Altantic bluefin, for example, or cross-breeding and artificial industrial-scale farming, as we're seeing with Iberian ham.

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