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Derby County 2-0 Sheffield Utd-Feck the EFL

DERBY COUNTY v SHEFFIELD UNITED...............………........................Championship # 26


Pride Park Stadium Saturday 15th January 2022

Every time I start the match thread with a wry observation, usually in a self-deprecating fashion and I usually succeed in creating something that no-one reads because the whole point of these match threads is just provide a just that - a thread. Unfortunately, today, I just do not know what to say.

I leave the takeover articles to you chaps (and chapeses) - and excellent they are but they are just that. We cannot effect or change the course of anything for our beloved club. With the dark dealings of the EFL and they are dark - we are being humiliated as fans, our manager, our players and the city is being humiliated by the non-accountable, vindictive and anachronistic EFL


I'm gutted Jags has gone but he has. Means a start for Stearman but again he is about 109 and will need to be used sparingly.....ahhhhh....what's the use? we don't stand a chance against the EFL


And who holds the EFL and the faceless bureaucrats to account?

Team news:-

Substitutes:

posted 6 hours, 58 minutes ago

comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted about an hour ago
Tom Lawrence has said he will leave the club IF it ensures survival. But he’d rather not, cos he loved the club
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Where's that View?
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RD news - 4.00pm

posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago

Well done Chicago

posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago

comment by Chicagoram (U22653)
posted 28 minutes ago
I've suggested in the past (and one of you did also very recently) that a good investigative journalist is needed. I've written to the Telegraph's IJ section and I set out a copy below:

"Dear Sophie,

I very much hope that you or one of your sports journalists (eg John Percy) will investigate the grossly unfair treatment of Derby County Football Club and therefore its innocent players, employees and supporters at the hands of the EFL and two other member clubs.

There is no doubt that Derby's sole owner (via Derby County FC) has breached certain EFL accounting regulations relating to player amortisation although an Independent Disciplinary Tribunal concluded that the Club had not acted in bad faith, had not gained an unfair advantage and had not prejudiced any other member clubs. Because of huge increasing liabilities the owner ultimately felt obliged to put DCFC into administration thereby incurring an automatic twelve-point deduction penalty. Following an EFL appeal against the Tribunal's first decision a further nine-point deduction penalty was imposed meaning that by any normal standards DCFC would be relegated at the end of this current season. There is a strong suspicion among Derby supporters that the EFL appealed the first decision under pressure from certain other member clubs who, for various reasons may well otherwise have sued the EFL. Two of those clubs are now making spurious, fanciful and obviously vindictive claims against DCFC which, if coming before a court of law, would stand no chance of success. One of those clubs has a representative who is on the Board of the EFL. He should obviously resign due to conflict of interest but seems to be showing no indication of doing so. The owner of the other claimant club has, on more than one occasion, made public inflammatory comments about DCFC which, if made against an individual would be libelous.

The administrators have, over the last four months, been trying to find a buyer for the club. There are three interested parties but they are all naturally being put off by the two claims which apparently total some 51 million pounds. (There was a fourth interested party but he has withdrawn because of the claims.) The more the delay, the more do debts accrue, the more do short-term loans become necessary to fund the day-to-day operations, the more likely does it become necessary for players to be sold from an already wafer-thin squad. Clearly no buying club is going to pay the true worth of any player. The disastrous effect of these spurious claims is well known and reinforces the view that the claimants' real objective is to see the demise of DCFC. No prospective owner will wish to take on those claims and there is no way they can be met other than by finding a buyer who is also willing to pay them. Yet the EFL regards these claims as debts which must be settled. Their rules require arbitration and yet it seems no proceedings can be brought against a company in administration! This places the Club in an impossible position.

The EFL is supposed to be the guardian of ALL member clubs yet appears to be willing to enforce its rules to the letter regardless of the consequences. They claim to recognise the importance to communities of clubs within their areas - social, historic, economic and yet seem not to care if their rules are pushed to limits leading to liquidation. They seem perfectly content to recognise claims which are baseless and incapable of substantiation and which could lead to the ruin of DCFC.

I could go on but in essence I feel that a good investigative journalist should look into the whole affair from every angle. There seem to be ulterior motives at play here involving a desire for vengeful punishment which has nothing to do with the proper running of a League.

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Love this Chicago - brilliant.

Could I nick it to send to ‘my’ newspaper? 😉

posted 6 hours, 38 minutes ago

Yes Chicago, are you OK for this to be copied and sent to other papers?

posted 6 hours, 8 minutes ago

comment by Wicklowram (U18957)
posted 21 minutes ago
Yes Chicago, are you OK for this to be copied and sent to other papers?
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Absolutely! Go for it!

PS I loved the suggestion on the Moan-in that the administrators should set up a rescue fund to which we could all contribute. If say 20000 fans each gave 200 pounds ( a lot I know) then we'd have 4 million in the kitty. Also, I know this could stick in the craw as the person who should be doing all the contributing is Mel Morris but that ain't going to happen.

posted 6 hours, 7 minutes ago

comment by ViewFromCroxteth (U1581)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Chicagoram (U22653)
posted 28 minutes ago
I've suggested in the past (and one of you did also very recently) that a good investigative journalist is needed. I've written to the Telegraph's IJ section and I set out a copy below:

"Dear Sophie,

I very much hope that you or one of your sports journalists (eg John Percy) will investigate the grossly unfair treatment of Derby County Football Club and therefore its innocent players, employees and supporters at the hands of the EFL and two other member clubs.

There is no doubt that Derby's sole owner (via Derby County FC) has breached certain EFL accounting regulations relating to player amortisation although an Independent Disciplinary Tribunal concluded that the Club had not acted in bad faith, had not gained an unfair advantage and had not prejudiced any other member clubs. Because of huge increasing liabilities the owner ultimately felt obliged to put DCFC into administration thereby incurring an automatic twelve-point deduction penalty. Following an EFL appeal against the Tribunal's first decision a further nine-point deduction penalty was imposed meaning that by any normal standards DCFC would be relegated at the end of this current season. There is a strong suspicion among Derby supporters that the EFL appealed the first decision under pressure from certain other member clubs who, for various reasons may well otherwise have sued the EFL. Two of those clubs are now making spurious, fanciful and obviously vindictive claims against DCFC which, if coming before a court of law, would stand no chance of success. One of those clubs has a representative who is on the Board of the EFL. He should obviously resign due to conflict of interest but seems to be showing no indication of doing so. The owner of the other claimant club has, on more than one occasion, made public inflammatory comments about DCFC which, if made against an individual would be libelous.

The administrators have, over the last four months, been trying to find a buyer for the club. There are three interested parties but they are all naturally being put off by the two claims which apparently total some 51 million pounds. (There was a fourth interested party but he has withdrawn because of the claims.) The more the delay, the more do debts accrue, the more do short-term loans become necessary to fund the day-to-day operations, the more likely does it become necessary for players to be sold from an already wafer-thin squad. Clearly no buying club is going to pay the true worth of any player. The disastrous effect of these spurious claims is well known and reinforces the view that the claimants' real objective is to see the demise of DCFC. No prospective owner will wish to take on those claims and there is no way they can be met other than by finding a buyer who is also willing to pay them. Yet the EFL regards these claims as debts which must be settled. Their rules require arbitration and yet it seems no proceedings can be brought against a company in administration! This places the Club in an impossible position.

The EFL is supposed to be the guardian of ALL member clubs yet appears to be willing to enforce its rules to the letter regardless of the consequences. They claim to recognise the importance to communities of clubs within their areas - social, historic, economic and yet seem not to care if their rules are pushed to limits leading to liquidation. They seem perfectly content to recognise claims which are baseless and incapable of substantiation and which could lead to the ruin of DCFC.

I could go on but in essence I feel that a good investigative journalist should look into the whole affair from every angle. There seem to be ulterior motives at play here involving a desire for vengeful punishment which has nothing to do with the proper running of a League.

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Love this Chicago - brilliant.

Could I nick it to send to ‘my’ newspaper? 😉
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Go for it!

posted 5 hours, 21 minutes ago

Great work, Chicago.
Meanwhile, at the football....
Leeds u23 1-0 Rams
Pushed around a bit in the first 25, better in the 2nd quarter.
Buch playing in the Cashin role.

posted 4 hours, 14 minutes ago

2-0 to Leeds in the end.
Had plenty of opportunities to level it before the 2nd went in.
Some key players missing, but you could probably say the same for them.
2 good finishes for Leeds and that was the difference.

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago


2 good finishes for Leeds and that was the difference.

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Sounds like us on Saturday?

posted 3 hours, 23 minutes ago

“Cometh the hour, cometh the man”

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