Back when Barca and Madrid were caning La Liga and constantly making CL semis and finals and winning them, whilst also boasting the two greatest players ever, there was a feeling Liga was not very good.
Liverpool and Man City find themselves in a similar situation but you won’t hear anyone say PL is below average, well not from this part of the world anyway. Maybe Spanish 606 have people with that opinion?
Anyway since Arsenal are so far behind those two, in some ways it’s easier to enjoy watching those two play and dominate football. Regardless of the result tonight for City, the fact they’ve been so consistent in recent years of this competition underlines their superiority that PL has seen for so long now. Liverpool on other hand have a history with this conception, and 3 finals in 5 years is unbelievable. The only blot against Liverpool is that they’ve not won enough trophies in recent years to reflect their dominance. But I see similarities when Barca were sweeping everything and Madrid weren’t actually winning much, despite being a top 3 team in Europe. Then they just started winning CL every season and the rest is history.
If Liverpool can maintain the dominance, they can perhaps go down that path too. Their CL dominance puts them in good company. They could end the season with only one trophy and that would be a real shame, this team is one of the most well balanced I’ve seen.
City, only missing CL as we all know. Get that trophy this season, and does Pep have anything left to prove? They’ll go down as the most dominant team in history of English football once a CL title is in the bag.
Teams this good don’t come along that often, so let’s enjoy it.
How strong is PL?
posted on 4/5/22
What was that?
posted on 4/5/22
comment by Cinciwolf---Top seven, guaranteed! (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
I think right now we are seeing quite a low bar in world football all over.
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I'm a Dundee United fan and agree - even it in the Scottish leagues. We're sitting a fairly comfortable 4th in the league with a team that would have been relegation fodder a decade ago. We have so little quality but others below us are even worse.
Doesn't help that a lot of our best youth players are taken away by middling English clubs to rot in the reserves on mega money. You'd think they'd look at the career of Andy Robertson as inspiration...
posted on 4/5/22
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 (U18109)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Top seven, guaranteed! (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
As poor as it has ever been. Very poor standard with two good teams and a collection of shat. Wolves have been awful all season and still sit eighth ffs
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Agreed, the top 2 are very good, Chelsea are decent but have had a lot of off the field turmoil this season.
The rest of the league is shiete, Spurs sacked their manager in October but are in with a realistic chance of 4th. Arsenal are managed by a dud and have no reliable striker but are favourites for fourth. United are laughably bad, sacked their manager half way through but will finish 6/7th.
West Ham have cycled through 16 players in their 198 game season but are still on course for Euro qualification. Wolves can barely win at home but are 8th.
The league is awful at the moment, the weakest I can remember
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Wolves have some quality players most foreign teams would take. I'd certainly say they have more valuable players than their foreign counterparts, I'm a similar position. The reason they've had trouble winning recently is because any team can beat any team on its day, bar one or two teams.
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That’s the same with all the major leagues - Bochum beating Dortmund the weekend just gone for instance, even though Haaland scored a hat trick.
The Prem is poo at the moment. Euro footy isn’t great either - 34 year old Benzema is dominating the CL
posted on 4/5/22
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Top seven, guaranteed! (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
I think right now we are seeing quite a low bar in world football all over.
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I'm a Dundee United fan and agree - even it in the Scottish leagues. We're sitting a fairly comfortable 4th in the league with a team that would have been relegation fodder a decade ago. We have so little quality but others below us are even worse.
Doesn't help that a lot of our best youth players are taken away by middling English clubs to rot in the reserves on mega money. You'd think they'd look at the career of Andy Robertson as inspiration...
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Feel free taking our shiete in return - I will drive Harry Winks up there myself
posted on 4/5/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 (U18109)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---Top seven, guaranteed! (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
As poor as it has ever been. Very poor standard with two good teams and a collection of shat. Wolves have been awful all season and still sit eighth ffs
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Agreed, the top 2 are very good, Chelsea are decent but have had a lot of off the field turmoil this season.
The rest of the league is shiete, Spurs sacked their manager in October but are in with a realistic chance of 4th. Arsenal are managed by a dud and have no reliable striker but are favourites for fourth. United are laughably bad, sacked their manager half way through but will finish 6/7th.
West Ham have cycled through 16 players in their 198 game season but are still on course for Euro qualification. Wolves can barely win at home but are 8th.
The league is awful at the moment, the weakest I can remember
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Wolves have some quality players most foreign teams would take. I'd certainly say they have more valuable players than their foreign counterparts, I'm a similar position. The reason they've had trouble winning recently is because any team can beat any team on its day, bar one or two teams.
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That’s the same with all the major leagues - Bochum beating Dortmund the weekend just gone for instance, even though Haaland scored a hat trick.
The Prem is poo at the moment. Euro footy isn’t great either - 34 year old Benzema is dominating the CL
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All soccer quality sucks at present
I enjoy Serie A as is inturnally comoetetive n fun but the teams r sheet really compare too passed
posted on 4/5/22
I think many here are suffering from nastalgia. The quality of football is pretty good. The best period was probably 08-18 with the Spanish dominance, but overall this is the most balanced.
And when you look at points needed for 4th place etc, the current race is fairly similar. You can't have a good team finishing 4th, that team by essence needs to be a few levels below the team that won the title.
posted on 4/5/22
Yer May-b
posted on 5/5/22
City, only missing CL as we all know. Get that trophy this season, and does Pep have anything left to prove? They’ll go down as the most dominant team in history of English football once a CL title is in the bag
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Well Klopp at Liverpool is about to complete the set. He's won them all.
Only thing he hasn't won is the FA cup and Liverpool are in the final of that.
posted on 5/5/22
comment by 50 trust the process (U1147)
posted 9 hours, 51 minutes ago
I think many here are suffering from nastalgia. The quality of football is pretty good. The best period was probably 08-18 with the Spanish dominance, but overall this is the most balanced.
And when you look at points needed for 4th place etc, the current race is fairly similar. You can't have a good team finishing 4th, that team by essence needs to be a few levels below the team that won the title.
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The Euro semis - England had 4, Spain 2, Germany 2, France 1, Scotland 1, Holland 1, Italy 1.
So compared to the rest of Europe we look alright, but watching the Prem week in and week out, Arsenal and Spurs are really poor and inconsistent, yet one of them will finish 4th
posted on 5/5/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by 50 trust the process (U1147)
posted 9 hours, 51 minutes ago
I think many here are suffering from nastalgia. The quality of football is pretty good. The best period was probably 08-18 with the Spanish dominance, but overall this is the most balanced.
And when you look at points needed for 4th place etc, the current race is fairly similar. You can't have a good team finishing 4th, that team by essence needs to be a few levels below the team that won the title.
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The Euro semis - England had 4, Spain 2, Germany 2, France 1, Scotland 1, Holland 1, Italy 1.
So compared to the rest of Europe we look alright, but watching the Prem week in and week out, Arsenal and Spurs are really poor and inconsistent, yet one of them will finish 4th
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Tell me a team that has challenged for 4th that looked consistent that season? I can only recall Liverpool when they finished 3rd couple seasons back who on paper weren’t poor but they were inconsistent as hell regardless.
No 4th team in Europe is ever ‘good’ vs the teams they finish below against.