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Kane and Salah

Funny how there seems to be this narrative from fans that Kane does not turn up in finals, yet if we look at Salah's career, he has been in 6 finals for Liverpool and scored just the 1 penalty that was handed to them on a plate by Spurs. This also excludes 2 Community Shields and a UEFA Super Cup which he was also involved in and also never assisted or scored in. Then for his own country he played in 2 AFCON finals and scored no goals, and Egypt lost both.

So that's 8 proper finals for Salah, and just 1 pen, and 1 assist I think.

Is it me or does Kane get more flack for failing to turn up in big games/finals whereas Salah gets more of a free pass? No doubt because Liverpool have won stuff while he's been failing in finals.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.

So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.

So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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Classic sandy.

posted on 31/5/22

You could say the same thing for Henry.



Not many players are beasts in finals like Drogba

posted on 31/5/22

comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.

So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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My point being that obviously Kane does turn up in big games if he has scored 35 goals.

comment by SteveF (U22027)

posted on 31/5/22

comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 12 hours, 4 minutes ago
Courtois certainly turned up for the final. He's the main reason Real won.
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And didn't he go out of his way to tell us all. Never seen a player pat himself on the back so much.

comment by SteveF (U22027)

posted on 31/5/22

comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?

Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
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When you consider Spurs have won 8 out of 9 finals, this is all spinning the narrative.

posted on 31/5/22

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?

Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
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When you consider Spurs have won 8 out of 9 finals, this is all spinning the narrative.
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What?

posted on 31/5/22

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.

It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.

I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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For Liverpool it's only 5 finals to be fair and 1 of those he was injured after 20 minutes.

posted on 31/5/22

comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 11 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.

So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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posted on 31/5/22

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.

It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.

I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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For Liverpool it's only 5 finals to be fair and 1 of those he was injured after 20 minutes.
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And another after 33 minutes.

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