https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2022/05/31/paris-isnt-fit-host-2024-olympics/
Pity you lost after all this malarky
And another on your side
posted on 1/6/22
This ^^
Could also be the reason for 1 stars.
Also, maybe put "Subscription required" in TFA.
posted on 1/6/22
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 13 minutes ago
This ^^
Could also be the reason for 1 stars.
Also, maybe put "Subscription required" in TFA.
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The one stars will be the usual suspects, you know it 👍
posted on 1/6/22
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 13 minutes ago
This ^^
Could also be the reason for 1 stars.
Also, maybe put "Subscription required" in TFA.
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The one stars will be the usual suspects, you know it 👍
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😂 can you name them
posted on 1/6/22
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 hours, 18 minutes ago
Thanks for sharing these 52. Really interesting to read and got the fullest picture. The number of independent journalists who witnessed what was going on clearly shows that there was systemic issues and policing problems in place rather than the narrative of 40,000 ticketless Liverpool fans trying to break in.
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Anyone who has been to a few games in either France or Spain, specifically Barecelona, personally I have never experienced anything that bad anywhere else in Spain, will tell you this, I experienced it in Marseille, including gas in 2000 and throught the years to this year in Lille, though I had moved on before the gas this time.
posted on 1/6/22
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Thanks for sharing these 52. Really interesting to read and got the fullest picture. The number of independent journalists who witnessed what was going on clearly shows that there was systemic issues and policing problems in place rather than the narrative of 40,000 ticketless Liverpool fans trying to break in.
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In fact they only counted 2,800 fake tickets on the night. The 40,000 number came from a right wing French politician trying to blame fans.
posted on 1/6/22
french fascists. simple as.
same folk piling refugees on boats to annoy tory fascists
its "political" now so IMO targe tPSG and get them fired out of europe for FFP and the tune might change.
the English FA would want to be the ones swinging thier weight about as biggest richest league in europe and scaring uefa into action really.
posted on 1/6/22
I'll copy and paste it soon Term. I forgot there was a paywall
posted on 1/6/22
It was about the worst thing that could happen to Emmanuel Macron’s legislative campaign, two weeks before the first round of the National Assembly elections – and he has only himself to blame. The omnishambles of the Champions League Cup Final, in which Liverpool fans were penned in for hours, pepper-sprayed, and finally made the scapegoats of the whole snafu by several ministers, is looking like a harbinger of doom for the president’s second term.
Back on February 25, the day after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Uefa rightly decided to move the match away from St Petersburg. Immediately, Macron offered Paris’s Stade de France as an alternative location. It seemed like a safe bet. The 80,000-seat arena had successfully welcomed a number of high-profile games, including the 1998 World Cup, as well as concerts by the Rolling Stones, Madonna, Lady Gaga, and, of course, Johnny Hallyday, whose half-century career is the envy of every French politician.
Instead mistakes were piled on mistakes. These included a failure to consider the consequences of a Métro strike and permitting (possibly instructing, for fear of riots?) the police to refuse to lift a finger when fans were mugged and robbed by local gangs. They also failed to coordinate properly with British bodies that could have told their French counterparts these were not the hooligans of half a century ago, but responsible football fans. And then insulting them with baseless accusations of “industrial ticket fraud” – allegations by Gérald Darmanin, the minister of the interior, that were relayed by strategically planted “experts” on various news channels.
To be fair, French public opinion did not buy it. I took part in a couple of TV post-mortems of the fiasco, and football experts, like Football Supporters Europe director, Ronan Evain, killed off the “fraud” narrative as a transparent lie. Darmanin alleged 30,000 to 40,000 fake tickets had been produced: “If a crowd half again the size of the stadium capacity had been present, the entire surroundings would have been overrun; they were not,” said Evain.
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The reason this important is, that although she writes for the Telegraph she is French; Often on French TV, so naturally inclined to be on the French side. She's not. Because it was their fault.
posted on 1/6/22
Excellent, thanks Manu. Whilst every fan will never be completely without fault in these situations, it does seem that the blame does lie with the French authorities.
Away from JA world I’m sure fans of all clubs will be relieved at this.
posted on 1/6/22
5 stars from me. Anything positive on Liverpool you will get 1 star from the usual ones.