For Diafol and Babyen

Yes, we would most definitely be governed from Cardiff. I would take that if it meant we govern ourselves. The worry would be that mist of the money would go to the South, and the North be somewhat neglected. No difference to now to be honest, and the same could be said is happening in England.
Regarding the financial issue, it worries me a little too, which is why I would want us as part of the EU. A sort of security blanket in the first years of independence if you like.

Thanks for that, interesting , let's hope it happens.

Thanks for the article MU52 and Babyen has pretty much written my thoughts on independence too.

I think we'd get along better if we were all separate to be honest. The UK Government is pretty much the English Gov as we always get what England votes for despite never voting for a Tory Gov here! There would be financial hurdles certainly but I wouldn't mind if GDP went down as long as the poorest are dragged up. That's how I'd measure wealth really. No hardship for anyone.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 57 minutes ago
Thanks for the article MU52 and Babyen has pretty much written my thoughts on independence too.

I think we'd get along better if we were all separate to be honest. The UK Government is pretty much the English Gov as we always get what England votes for despite never voting for a Tory Gov here! There would be financial hurdles certainly but I wouldn't mind if GDP went down as long as the poorest are dragged up. That's how I'd measure wealth really. No hardship for anyone.
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Good thoughts there Diafol, and I agree completely

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 57 minutes ago
Thanks for the article MU52 and Babyen has pretty much written my thoughts on independence too.

I think we'd get along better if we were all separate to be honest. The UK Government is pretty much the English Gov as we always get what England votes for despite never voting for a Tory Gov here! There would be financial hurdles certainly but I wouldn't mind if GDP went down as long as the poorest are dragged up. That's how I'd measure wealth really. No hardship for anyone.
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Good thoughts there Diafol, and I agree completely
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Often here the criticism by those who want to remain in the Union centres around Indy supporters being anti-English. I can assure you that it isn't the case at all. I'd have no part of it were that true. Self-determination is all about doing things for us here and I'd hope for a civic nationalism if we ever went our own way.

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If Ukraine had beat Wales and went into England's group in Qatar, would you have expected England to throw our Group game against them and then every other team they met in the competition... so they won the WorldCup?

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
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If Ukraine had beat Wales and went into England's group in Qatar, would you have expected England to throw our Group game against them and then every other team they met in the competition... so they won the WorldCup?
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Of course not.
Anymore than I expected or wanted Wales to.

I think we'd get along better if we were all separate to be honest. The UK Government is pretty much the English Gov as we always get what England votes for despite never voting for a Tory Gov here!
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I thought we all did get along. I certainly get along with all my Welsh friends family and colleagues. No hate there.

Ive never voted Tory either but more often than not get ruled by a Tory government. Sometime democracy sucks

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
I think we'd get along better if we were all separate to be honest. The UK Government is pretty much the English Gov as we always get what England votes for despite never voting for a Tory Gov here!
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I thought we all did get along. I certainly get along with all my Welsh friends family and colleagues. No hate there.

Ive never voted Tory either but more often than not get ruled by a Tory government. Sometime democracy sucks
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Maybe badly worded on my part. In terms of getting along I did mean politically more than anything else. Scotland, England and us all have different governments with different agendas really. It does cause friction from time to time from what I can see.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 16 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
I think we'd get along better if we were all separate to be honest. The UK Government is pretty much the English Gov as we always get what England votes for despite never voting for a Tory Gov here!
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I thought we all did get along. I certainly get along with all my Welsh friends family and colleagues. No hate there.

Ive never voted Tory either but more often than not get ruled by a Tory government. Sometime democracy sucks
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Maybe badly worded on my part. In terms of getting along I did mean politically more than anything else. Scotland, England and us all have different governments with different agendas really. It does cause friction from time to time from what I can see.
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