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Sick if hearing about the Glazers and their dividends.

If it was upto me, they wouldn't take it, but it isnt.

Its £11m between lots of them, which probably equates to far less each than the likes off Jones, Bailly, AWB, Martial, even some staff members get per year.

comment by Cal (U22833)

posted 1 week, 6 days ago

Going to have to suddenly get lots of decisions right and repeatedly so for at least three years really.

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Especially when you look at what could be building at Spurs, Arsenal and Newcastle

posted 1 week, 6 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I almost get what RDD is saying but he neglects the fact that their recruitment at senior level is absolutely appalling. The people who are supposed to make the big decisions have demonstrably made bad ones and then that filters all the way down.

I suspect you're over the worst of it unfortunately but you've taken one hell of a hit to squad quality. Going to have to suddenly get lots of decisions right and repeatedly so for at least three years really.
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And the small matters of the £1.1bn they’ve cost the club, £50m they continue to take out each year and £500m (up another 11% this last year) of debt?

comment by Cal (U22833)

posted 1 week, 6 days ago

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I almost get what RDD is saying but he neglects the fact that their recruitment at senior level is absolutely appalling. The people who are supposed to make the big decisions have demonstrably made bad ones and then that filters all the way down.

I suspect you're over the worst of it unfortunately but you've taken one hell of a hit to squad quality. Going to have to suddenly get lots of decisions right and repeatedly so for at least three years really.
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And the small matters of the £1.1bn they’ve cost the club, £50m they continue to take out each year and £500m (up another 11% this last year) of debt?
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And the OP is sick of hearing about their dividends

posted 1 week, 6 days ago

comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I almost get what RDD is saying but he neglects the fact that their recruitment at senior level is absolutely appalling. The people who are supposed to make the big decisions have demonstrably made bad ones and then that filters all the way down.

I suspect you're over the worst of it unfortunately but you've taken one hell of a hit to squad quality. Going to have to suddenly get lots of decisions right and repeatedly so for at least three years really.
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And the small matters of the £1.1bn they’ve cost the club, £50m they continue to take out each year and £500m (up another 11% this last year) of debt?
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Yeah it's not like I am the one saying that's no big deal!

Infrastructure wise reportedly Man Utd are starting to fall way behind both at the stadium and the training ground. You'll know more about that than me.

But money enough has been provided in fees and wages to not have that squad and levels of success over the past decade.

Commercially the gap has closed to Utd's rivals too though, considerably in fact so overall they've not got anything right for a long time from what I can tell.

Utd are in a right old pickle as it stands. On the flip side that makes me happy so silver linings and all that

comment by Cal (U22833)

posted 1 week, 6 days ago

Commercially the gap has closed to Utd's rivals too though, considerably in fact so overall they've not got anything right for a long time from what I can tell.

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No no no

We've improved commercially according to the op


posted 1 week, 6 days ago

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
And his legal team could advise him against contacting her to prevent any suggestion of witness intimidation.
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Possibly. Doesn't mean he will follow their advise and the police would certainly prefer it to remain that he can't make contact.
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Given we have heard nothing from MG since this happened, i reckon hed do whatever he was advised to.

Botom line, bail extended or not, it doesnt indicate which way the investigation goes.

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It might to some extent if the judge bases a decision on an outline of the evidence already gathered.
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Im not sure thats what they do, and id certainly doubt they would communicate the reasoning for their decision.
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I am pretty sure that is what they do. Have an overview look at the evidence as to whether there is reasonable chance of bringing charges. How else do you think they make a decision? No idea what you are talking about them communicating reasons for decision. What I mean is that if the judge thinks there is decent evidence then that isn't good for Greenwood.
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They are purely decid8ng if he needs to remain on bail or.not.

Nothing to do.with how likely the outcome of any investigation.
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Yep, and in order to make that decision the judge has a overview look at the evidence. How else do you think the judge can make a decision? Stick his head out of the window and see which way the wind is blowing?

If he feels that there is reasonable evidence to grant extended bail then that isn't a good sign for Greenwood.
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The judge would consider MG's conduct so far under bail, how long the case is likely to go on, and the impact being on bail has had on his life.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 7 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
And his legal team could advise him against contacting her to prevent any suggestion of witness intimidation.
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Possibly. Doesn't mean he will follow their advise and the police would certainly prefer it to remain that he can't make contact.
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Given we have heard nothing from MG since this happened, i reckon hed do whatever he was advised to.

Botom line, bail extended or not, it doesnt indicate which way the investigation goes.

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It might to some extent if the judge bases a decision on an outline of the evidence already gathered.
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Im not sure thats what they do, and id certainly doubt they would communicate the reasoning for their decision.
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I am pretty sure that is what they do. Have an overview look at the evidence as to whether there is reasonable chance of bringing charges. How else do you think they make a decision? No idea what you are talking about them communicating reasons for decision. What I mean is that if the judge thinks there is decent evidence then that isn't good for Greenwood.
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They are purely decid8ng if he needs to remain on bail or.not.

Nothing to do.with how likely the outcome of any investigation.
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Yep, and in order to make that decision the judge has a overview look at the evidence. How else do you think the judge can make a decision? Stick his head out of the window and see which way the wind is blowing?

If he feels that there is reasonable evidence to grant extended bail then that isn't a good sign for Greenwood.
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The judge would consider MG's conduct so far under bail, how long the case is likely to go on, and the impact being on bail has had on his life.
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Waht point are you trying to make?

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 7 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
And his legal team could advise him against contacting her to prevent any suggestion of witness intimidation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. Doesn't mean he will follow their advise and the police would certainly prefer it to remain that he can't make contact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Given we have heard nothing from MG since this happened, i reckon hed do whatever he was advised to.

Botom line, bail extended or not, it doesnt indicate which way the investigation goes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
It might to some extent if the judge bases a decision on an outline of the evidence already gathered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Im not sure thats what they do, and id certainly doubt they would communicate the reasoning for their decision.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am pretty sure that is what they do. Have an overview look at the evidence as to whether there is reasonable chance of bringing charges. How else do you think they make a decision? No idea what you are talking about them communicating reasons for decision. What I mean is that if the judge thinks there is decent evidence then that isn't good for Greenwood.
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They are purely decid8ng if he needs to remain on bail or.not.

Nothing to do.with how likely the outcome of any investigation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, and in order to make that decision the judge has a overview look at the evidence. How else do you think the judge can make a decision? Stick his head out of the window and see which way the wind is blowing?

If he feels that there is reasonable evidence to grant extended bail then that isn't a good sign for Greenwood.
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The judge would consider MG's conduct so far under bail, how long the case is likely to go on, and the impact being on bail has had on his life.
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Waht point are you trying to make?
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You asked how the judge would make his decision. I answered you.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

How many times can you have the same conversation?

As many as you like is the reality, much like in reality Greenwood will never play for Man Utd again.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 5 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 7 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Erik Don Hag (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
And his legal team could advise him against contacting her to prevent any suggestion of witness intimidation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. Doesn't mean he will follow their advise and the police would certainly prefer it to remain that he can't make contact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Given we have heard nothing from MG since this happened, i reckon hed do whatever he was advised to.

Botom line, bail extended or not, it doesnt indicate which way the investigation goes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
It might to some extent if the judge bases a decision on an outline of the evidence already gathered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Im not sure thats what they do, and id certainly doubt they would communicate the reasoning for their decision.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am pretty sure that is what they do. Have an overview look at the evidence as to whether there is reasonable chance of bringing charges. How else do you think they make a decision? No idea what you are talking about them communicating reasons for decision. What I mean is that if the judge thinks there is decent evidence then that isn't good for Greenwood.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They are purely decid8ng if he needs to remain on bail or.not.

Nothing to do.with how likely the outcome of any investigation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, and in order to make that decision the judge has a overview look at the evidence. How else do you think the judge can make a decision? Stick his head out of the window and see which way the wind is blowing?

If he feels that there is reasonable evidence to grant extended bail then that isn't a good sign for Greenwood.
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The judge would consider MG's conduct so far under bail, how long the case is likely to go on, and the impact being on bail has had on his life.
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Waht point are you trying to make?
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You asked how the judge would make his decision. I answered you.
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You answered incorrectly. The judge bases his decision on the chances of charges being brought based on an overview of evidence to hand. Just as a senior police officer does the stage before. Whether a potential rapist has behaved whilst on bail or the impact bail has had on him is irrelevant.

His bail has been extended anyway. Not a good sign.

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