Such a strange one.
Reports from reliable sources say he doesn’t want to leave Barca. This may be a ploy from the player to get the money Barca owe him.
You would think that if the player did not want to come then there’s no way Murtough and Arnold would have gone to Barcelona. This isn’t Football Manager where you don’t start talks with a player until the bid is accepted.
You can be damn sure he’s spoken to ETH and if he told him no I’m not coming then surely we wouldn’t be pursuing it and you would hope he has enough respect for ETH not to lead him up the garden path. I know the club has been badly ran in recent years but these people aren’t idiots.
I don’t know how this will end but the fact that it’s gone on so long we must feel there’s a strong chance it will get done.
Frenkie De Jong
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Frenkie van de Hag (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don't blame for FDJ holding this up if that's the case. He agreed to help in good faith I'd imagine and now Barca are morally, if not legally, are doing the dirty on him.
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How so?. Its United instigating the move.
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I know. If reports are to be believed though FDJ either leaves and misses out on the deferred payments or stays and is pressured into taking a salary cut or be blamed for their financial woes.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Frenkie van de Hag (U22703)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 27 seconds ago
Would set a pretty ridiculous precedent for the player to not be paid the money Barca owe him, the club is a complete shambles right now and shouldn't be allowed to spend until they get their house in order
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Why woukd Barca pay up his contract if he had eft?
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I mean the underpayment rather than the full contract obviously
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Frenkie van de Hag (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don't blame for FDJ holding this up if that's the case. He agreed to help in good faith I'd imagine and now Barca are morally, if not legally, are doing the dirty on him.
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How so?. Its United instigating the move.
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I know. If reports are to be believed though FDJ either leaves and misses out on the deferred payments or stays and is pressured into taking a salary cut or be blamed for their financial woes.
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Well, i cant see him staying if it gets to the point the club are smearing his name with the fans.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Frenkie van de Hag (U22703)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 27 seconds ago
Would set a pretty ridiculous precedent for the player to not be paid the money Barca owe him, the club is a complete shambles right now and shouldn't be allowed to spend until they get their house in order
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Why woukd Barca pay up his contract if he had eft?
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I mean the underpayment rather than the full contract obviously
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The underpayment is due to be paid essentially as a raise across the final 2 years of his deal. If he leaves, they wont pay the last 2 years of his contract.
posted on 13/7/22
comment by Frenkie van de Hag (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Frenkie van de Hag (U22703)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 27 seconds ago
Would set a pretty ridiculous precedent for the player to not be paid the money Barca owe him, the club is a complete shambles right now and shouldn't be allowed to spend until they get their house in order
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Why woukd Barca pay up his contract if he had eft?
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I mean the underpayment rather than the full contract obviously
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The underpayment is due to be paid essentially as a raise across the final 2 years of his deal. If he leaves, they wont pay the last 2 years of his contract.
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Not a surprise he wants to stay then.
Best solution if the player is open to a United move is Barca pay him with part of the transfer fee from United or Barca reduce the transfer and United pay him the money as a signing on bonus.
posted on 13/7/22
He doesn’t seem to want to come, move on.
posted on 13/7/22
He doesn`t want to lower himself and leave Barca for Penited, and who can blame him.
posted on 14/7/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 14 hours, 49 minutes ago
VC - It's been reported today (again!) that FDJ has no intention to leave and has no intention to take a salary cut. I may be wrong but I think we're approaching an end game now. It's just a hunch though based on me thinking there's a lot of posturing going on.
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I don’t really see how this changes anything really. It seems to me that Barca seem to be playing chicken with La Liga and unless La Liga blink then Barca are not going to be able to Register their players. I see this dragging out for another six weeks.
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Unfortunately for them, Barça can’t play chicken with La Liga.
If they don’t reduce their wage bill significantly, or bring in significant revenue (which is what these ‘levers’ or, in plain terms, selling off chunks of the club and its future revenue streams, is about), there is no process via which they’ll be able to register the three new players.
posted on 14/7/22
The two ‘levers’, if fully applied, will dig Barça out of their immediate hole and allow them to register the three players.
The problem is using that approach and doing nothing else - given the debt, their profit/loss (adding over €200m to the debt last year alone), and, ultimately, their simply insane wage bill - leaves them in a bigger hole before:
They’d have stripped value from the club, reduced future retail revenue permanently, and reduced their potential TV revenue significantly for the next 25 years.
It’s the equivalent of making a lump sum equity release agreement on your house *and* taking a deal from a loan shark when you’re ridiculously deep in the mire, then spending a good chunk of the cash on a new car and failing to change your spending habits.
The reality is Barça *must* sell players, and they *must* reduce their wage bill massively.
You can only sell off your retail business once. You can only sell off your TV rights once. What happens when the debts work their way back to their current levels and they have nothing left to pawn?
posted on 14/7/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
The two ‘levers’, if fully applied, will dig Barça out of their immediate hole and allow them to register the three players.
The problem is using that approach and doing nothing else - given the debt, their profit/loss (adding over €200m to the debt last year alone), and, ultimately, their simply insane wage bill - leaves them in a bigger hole before:
They’d have stripped value from the club, reduced future retail revenue permanently, and reduced their potential TV revenue significantly for the next 25 years.
It’s the equivalent of making a lump sum equity release agreement on your house *and* taking a deal from a loan shark when you’re ridiculously deep in the mire, then spending a good chunk of the cash on a new car and failing to change your spending habits.
The reality is Barça *must* sell players, and they *must* reduce their wage bill massively.
You can only sell off your retail business once. You can only sell off your TV rights once. What happens when the debts work their way back to their current levels and they have nothing left to pawn?
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comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
The two ‘levers’, if fully applied, will dig Barça out of their immediate hole and allow them to register the three players.
The problem is using that approach and doing nothing else - given the debt, their profit/loss (adding over €200m to the debt last year alone), and, ultimately, their simply insane wage bill - leaves them in a bigger hole before:
They’d have stripped value from the club, reduced future retail revenue permanently, and reduced their potential TV revenue significantly for the next 25 years.
It’s the equivalent of making a lump sum equity release agreement on your house *and* taking a deal from a loan shark when you’re ridiculously deep in the mire, then spending a good chunk of the cash on a new car and failing to change your spending habits.
The reality is Barça *must* sell players, and they *must* reduce their wage bill massively.
You can only sell off your retail business once. You can only sell off your TV rights once. What happens when the debts work their way back to their current levels and they have nothing left to pawn?
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Apparently the club is owned by the club members/fans.
I've always advocated for something like that to be written into law in England but feck me they're doing a spectacular job of showing how badly it can go wrong...
Can see them bankrupt and wallowing down in the 5th tier of Spanish football if things don't change drastically.
That or they know the super league is just around the corner and has already been sorted to bail them out when the time comes.