Anyone seen All Or Nothing yet?

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Watched a couple this morning while I was working. I don't think he's the full ticket. Some of it will stick and people will think he's a genius but most of it is style over substance. He's clearly not a bloke that would command a room on his own so he turns to the gimmicks. If he doesn't achieve a top four finish this season with the money they've spent he'll have failed.
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Yeah, didn’t realise just how much they’ve spent. Way more than us in the last few years. One thing I would say is that they’re much better future proofed than us. Their best players are babies. Ours are hitting 30s.
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Romero
Sess
Royal
Bissouma
Bentancur
PEH
Skipp
Kulu
Richarlison

All under 25

We also have a good few youngsters - Sarr, Gil, Parrot Scarlett and Devine. Kane and Son are of course irreplaceable and that will be a big problem at some point, but we have definitely been buying with an eye on the future recently alongside picking up a couple of very experienced players like Perisic and Forster
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Ouch


Which poster said all Spurs players are hitting 30?
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I said our best players are hitting 30. Our best two players are Son, 30 and Kane, 29. I didn’t say ‘all’. You can’t argue with what I’ve put.

Of the list of the players you’ve selected there that could qualify for young and talented only really Romero and Kulusevski qualify. The others are either shiiiit (Royal), older like Bissouma or Richy, or overrated like Skipp.

My point is that Arsenal’s game changers, the ones that truly matter, are young, and ours are getting older.
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Bentancur, Richarlison and Bissouma are all 25 and PEH is 26

Spence, Sess 21

What your missing is that ESR isn’t a massive talent, he is okay but not great. Saka is running down his contract and won’t sign a new one - it only has two years left. Odour guard is bang average.

They are more or less in the same position as us with regards to the future, I would argue we’re in a stronger position because our younger players have got us into the top 4, there’s wilted when the pressure was on
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Come on now, stop telling fibs. Our young players didn't get us in the CL did they. Kane and Son did. Absolutely no disputing that.
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Of course they played a key part, but so did Kulu, Bentancur and Romero - our fortunes really changed when those 2 were brought in and Romero was back from injury and they are all young.

Saka and Gabriel aside and at stretch Martinelli - who do Arsenal have in that young key player category?

Odour guard - average
ESR - average
White - average
Tierney - decent but a sick note
Tomiyasu - average
Ramsdale - decent
Jesus - best ever season he scored 12
Saliba - potential to be world class, won’t sign a new contract at Arsenal, has 2 years left.

Arguably their 2 biggest talents are Saka and Saliba and they won’t sign new contracts. Both have 2 years left very likely will get sold next summer. That would leave them with Gabriel and Martinelli then a load of average players

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comment by South Side (U20009)
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Watched a couple this morning while I was working. I don't think he's the full ticket. Some of it will stick and people will think he's a genius but most of it is style over substance. He's clearly not a bloke that would command a room on his own so he turns to the gimmicks. If he doesn't achieve a top four finish this season with the money they've spent he'll have failed.
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Yeah, didn’t realise just how much they’ve spent. Way more than us in the last few years. One thing I would say is that they’re much better future proofed than us. Their best players are babies. Ours are hitting 30s.
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Romero
Sess
Royal
Bissouma
Bentancur
PEH
Skipp
Kulu
Richarlison

All under 25

We also have a good few youngsters - Sarr, Gil, Parrot Scarlett and Devine. Kane and Son are of course irreplaceable and that will be a big problem at some point, but we have definitely been buying with an eye on the future recently alongside picking up a couple of very experienced players like Perisic and Forster
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Ouch


Which poster said all Spurs players are hitting 30?
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I said our best players are hitting 30. Our best two players are Son, 30 and Kane, 29. I didn’t say ‘all’. You can’t argue with what I’ve put.

Of the list of the players you’ve selected there that could qualify for young and talented only really Romero and Kulusevski qualify. The others are either shiiiit (Royal), older like Bissouma or Richy, or overrated like Skipp.

My point is that Arsenal’s game changers, the ones that truly matter, are young, and ours are getting older.
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Arsenal haven't got any game changers.

Have you forgotten they where four points clear of Spurs with just three games to play. Where were their game changers when it mattered?

You are bigging them up to something they most definitely are not.

They won't get a better chance of top four than last season.

Arteta has got rid of players he thought were having a negative influence on the squad and has been backed by the board.

they've had a good pre season but let's see how they




get on in the league and how they cope with ropey league football on Thursday's.

they had no European football last season and had Champions league in their grasp with only a few games to go and folded much to our delight.

I'll watch the last episode just for a giggle,seeing them get smashed at The Lane was my favourite game of last season and the atmosphere in the ground was fantastic,

watching Arteta crying in the interview when i got home after the game was the icing on the cake.

Combined 10 of players 26 or under (bar keeper as older keepers are not really an issue)

Tomiyasu Romero Gabriel Zinchenko

Bissouma Bentancur PEH

Saka/Kulu Saka/Kulu

Jesus

Basically we need to sort our defence out and get another at Romero’s level. Maybe Spence and/or Spence can step up in wing back positions this year. If Udogie comes in then he might make the step up.

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Arteta has got rid of players he thought were having a negative influence on the squad and has been backed by the board.

they've had a good pre season but let's see how they




get on in the league and how they cope with ropey league football on Thursday's.

they had no European football last season and had Champions league in their grasp with only a few games to go and folded much to our delight.

I'll watch the last episode just for a giggle,seeing them get smashed at The Lane was my favourite game of last season and the atmosphere in the ground was fantastic,

watching Arteta crying in the interview when i got home after the game was the icing on the cake.
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That interview was great, couldn’t believe he was blubbing

Sunderland Til I Die on Netflix is easily the best one of these documentaries I’ve seen. The first season was tremendous and while the second season focused a little too much on what was happening at board level, the episode in which they covered the last minute signing of Will Grigg was genuinely tense and fascinating.

Didn’t really like the Spurs one or any of the Amazon ones to be honest. They don’t really offer that much insight or drama and seem overly curated and overly sanitized and often seem like glorified commercials for the clubs they are covering.

Think these kind of docs work better with lower league clubs, which actually are more likely to be open to letting you see the everyday nitty gritty of running a football club.

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Sunderland Til I Die on Netflix is easily the best one of these documentaries I’ve seen. The first season was tremendous and while the second season focused a little too much on what was happening at board level, the episode in which they covered the last minute signing of Will Grigg was genuinely tense and fascinating.

Didn’t really like the Spurs one or any of the Amazon ones to be honest. They don’t really offer that much insight or drama and seem overly curated and overly sanitized and often seem like glorified commercials for the clubs they are covering.

Think these kind of docs work better with lower league clubs, which actually are more likely to be open to letting you see the everyday nitty gritty of running a football club.

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Yeah the first Sunderland one was brilliant. The programme was made to see them go up but they ended up getting relegated. This was imo more raw then the recent series.

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comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
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Sunderland Til I Die on Netflix is easily the best one of these documentaries I’ve seen. The first season was tremendous and while the second season focused a little too much on what was happening at board level, the episode in which they covered the last minute signing of Will Grigg was genuinely tense and fascinating.

Didn’t really like the Spurs one or any of the Amazon ones to be honest. They don’t really offer that much insight or drama and seem overly curated and overly sanitized and often seem like glorified commercials for the clubs they are covering.

Think these kind of docs work better with lower league clubs, which actually are more likely to be open to letting you see the everyday nitty gritty of running a football club.

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Yeah the first Sunderland one was brilliant. The programme was made to see them go up but they ended up getting relegated. This was imo more raw then the recent series.
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I think raw is the best word to describe it and the producers seriously lucked out in a way with Sunderland’s relagation as it just made the whole series that much more intense.

The BBC did a similar kind of documentary series with Sunderland in the 90’s when Peter Reid was in charge. Don’t know if you have ever come across it, but if not it’s seriously good and really was the first of its kind. There’s a scene which shows them discussing the potential transfer of Paul Scholes from United and it’s just so weird watching it and thinking about what might have been had they actually succeeded in pulling the transfer off.

Not seen any episodes but just checked and can see it is on Thursday nights which is very coincidental.

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comment by Barefoot (U19770)
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comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 29 minutes ago
Sunderland Til I Die on Netflix is easily the best one of these documentaries I’ve seen. The first season was tremendous and while the second season focused a little too much on what was happening at board level, the episode in which they covered the last minute signing of Will Grigg was genuinely tense and fascinating.

Didn’t really like the Spurs one or any of the Amazon ones to be honest. They don’t really offer that much insight or drama and seem overly curated and overly sanitized and often seem like glorified commercials for the clubs they are covering.

Think these kind of docs work better with lower league clubs, which actually are more likely to be open to letting you see the everyday nitty gritty of running a football club.

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Yeah the first Sunderland one was brilliant. The programme was made to see them go up but they ended up getting relegated. This was imo more raw then the recent series.
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I think raw is the best word to describe it and the producers seriously lucked out in a way with Sunderland’s relagation as it just made the whole series that much more intense.

The BBC did a similar kind of documentary series with Sunderland in the 90’s when Peter Reid was in charge. Don’t know if you have ever come across it, but if not it’s seriously good and really was the first of its kind. There’s a scene which shows them discussing the potential transfer of Paul Scholes from United and it’s just so weird watching it and thinking about what might have been had they actually succeeded in pulling the transfer off.
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Not seen it.

I think it's on you tube so may have a look.