outrageous statements. The latest one is Pep Guardiola when talking about Haaland. He says if you put the names of all the biggest strikers of all times at Haalands current age, he is the greatest of all time. He then goes on to say he will break all the goalscoring records.
So Haaland at age 22 as scored these top flight goals
62 goals for Borussia Dortmund
17 goals for Red Bull
2 for Man City
and a few in the Austrian League (not sure you can count that league as top flight
Does he actually know anything about Jimmy Greaves, who by the age of 20 had hit 100 top flight goals, and just one year older than Haaland has hit his 200th top flight goals.
I do wish these managers would engage their brains before coming out with such ridiculous stats. So if he is to break the all time British record he needs to beat the 366 scored by Jimmy Greaves, which means he is just the 364 behind.
If he plays for another 10 years, he will have to score 36 Prem goals a season, every season, to still be four goals behind.
Decent striker yes, but don`t big him up to something he is nowhere near yet.
Why do managers come out with such
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comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
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Ronaldo and Messi both have more top flight goals than Jimmy, Sandy.
Appreciate you may be referring to English top flight only, but then I’m curious as to why you’d include the goals Jimmy scored for AC Milan?
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I was referring to English top flight, so will take away the nine goals Greaves scored for Milan. But that still leaves just the 357. No modern striker will be beating that. Mostly because they don't hang around long enough.
Kane is a one club man, but he is still a long way behind.
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I would not put it past him to break Jimmy Greaves record, if he can stay relatively injury free. Strikers stay fitter and more in form for longer in this day and age and don't partake in the smoking and drinking habits of the players in Greaves' age.
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Also, they may be fitter, but when was the last time a Prem top goalscorer scored 36 goals like Greaves did for Spurs in a season, or the 41 goals like Greaves did in a season?
The answer is none. No Prem goalscorer has ever hit more than Shearer`s 34 goals a season.
Haaland will score 25 goals tops a season in all probability, which would take him 14 seasons to get anywhere near Greaves if he kept up the same rate for all 14 seasons.
It simply is not that easy to score goals in the top flight of English football, like in other leagues across Europe.
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Shearer scored 34 when there were 22 teams in the league and 42 games to do it in, so it's different, just as it was in Greaves' era also. I accept they are all different eras and therefore difficult to compare. At least Shearer's era is closer to today's than Greaves was.
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I still don`t get why different eras actually matter. A record is a record in whatever era it happened. I am sure a fully fit 21st century Jimmy Greaves without smoking or drinking, with modern training methods would have still scored an absolute hatful.
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Nobody is saying he wouldn't but surely you know the whole landscape of football was different back for Greaves than it is now. It's like any sport. Things have evolved and advanced.
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Well if they have advanced, tell me why no Prem striker has ever hit 36 goals in a season. OK four fewer games, but even so Greaves was hitting very high numbers year on year in a supposedly inferior era on gluepots of pitches with a ball that was twice the weight of the modern football.
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I would not put it past him to break Jimmy Greaves record, if he can stay relatively injury free. Strikers stay fitter and more in form for longer in this day and age and don't partake in the smoking and drinking habits of the players in Greaves' age.
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Also, they may be fitter, but when was the last time a Prem top goalscorer scored 36 goals like Greaves did for Spurs in a season, or the 41 goals like Greaves did in a season?
The answer is none. No Prem goalscorer has ever hit more than Shearer`s 34 goals a season.
Haaland will score 25 goals tops a season in all probability, which would take him 14 seasons to get anywhere near Greaves if he kept up the same rate for all 14 seasons.
It simply is not that easy to score goals in the top flight of English football, like in other leagues across Europe.
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Shearer scored 34 when there were 22 teams in the league and 42 games to do it in, so it's different, just as it was in Greaves' era also. I accept they are all different eras and therefore difficult to compare. At least Shearer's era is closer to today's than Greaves was.
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I still don`t get why different eras actually matter. A record is a record in whatever era it happened. I am sure a fully fit 21st century Jimmy Greaves without smoking or drinking, with modern training methods would have still scored an absolute hatful.
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Nobody is saying he wouldn't but surely you know the whole landscape of football was different back for Greaves than it is now. It's like any sport. Things have evolved and advanced.
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Well if they have advanced, tell me why no Prem striker has ever hit 36 goals in a season. OK four fewer games, but even so Greaves was hitting very high numbers year on year in a supposedly inferior era on gluepots of pitches with a ball that was twice the weight of the modern football.
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Cause it was easier to score back then?
I don't see why you have to compare so much someone that was around playing football in the 60's, to players playing 60 years later. The difference is like night and day. Greaves was brilliant in his era and is one of the all time great goal scorers. Kane isn't bad either for this era. That's all that needs to be said.
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I would not put it past him to break Jimmy Greaves record, if he can stay relatively injury free. Strikers stay fitter and more in form for longer in this day and age and don't partake in the smoking and drinking habits of the players in Greaves' age.
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Also, they may be fitter, but when was the last time a Prem top goalscorer scored 36 goals like Greaves did for Spurs in a season, or the 41 goals like Greaves did in a season?
The answer is none. No Prem goalscorer has ever hit more than Shearer`s 34 goals a season.
Haaland will score 25 goals tops a season in all probability, which would take him 14 seasons to get anywhere near Greaves if he kept up the same rate for all 14 seasons.
It simply is not that easy to score goals in the top flight of English football, like in other leagues across Europe.
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Shearer scored 34 when there were 22 teams in the league and 42 games to do it in, so it's different, just as it was in Greaves' era also. I accept they are all different eras and therefore difficult to compare. At least Shearer's era is closer to today's than Greaves was.
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I still don`t get why different eras actually matter. A record is a record in whatever era it happened. I am sure a fully fit 21st century Jimmy Greaves without smoking or drinking, with modern training methods would have still scored an absolute hatful.
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Nobody is saying he wouldn't but surely you know the whole landscape of football was different back for Greaves than it is now. It's like any sport. Things have evolved and advanced.
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Well if they have advanced, tell me why no Prem striker has ever hit 36 goals in a season. OK four fewer games, but even so Greaves was hitting very high numbers year on year in a supposedly inferior era on gluepots of pitches with a ball that was twice the weight of the modern football.
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Cause it was easier to score back then?
I don't see why you have to compare so much someone that was around playing football in the 60's, to players playing 60 years later. The difference is like night and day. Greaves was brilliant in his era and is one of the all time great goal scorers. Kane isn't bad either for this era. That's all that needs to be said.
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I'm not comparing. I am saying Greaves holds the record for the most top flight goals in English football.
It's you and others that are trying to belittle his achievement by bringing up the different era nonsense.
It's like Spurs winning the double would only count if it was done in the modern era.
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And what would your opinion be if this were Conte talking about Kane, Sandy? It seems to me you reserve your criticisms for other clubs’ managers and players. If this were about Kane you wouldn’t bat an eyelid. Why can’t you just let Pep big up his own players publicly, however absurd the claims may sound? Strange thing to get angry about.
posted on 13/8/22
PS - looks like that Jesus bet we’ve got is looking good for me right now 😂
posted on 13/8/22
Guys, guys, it is all totally irrelevant because Jesus is ( according to the hype) going to smash every goal scoring record that ever existed, whilst not even breaking sweat.
Better than Messi, Ronny, Jimmy and uncle Tom Cobbly all combined together.
posted on 13/8/22
Sandy it's not like you to mention Jimmy Greaves.
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comment by Brother (U20548)
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Sandy it's not like you to mention Jimmy Greaves.
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Brother, nothing wrong in mentioning the greatest ever English goalscorer.
posted on 13/8/22
Where is Lewandowski in this conversation?
Does he have any goal scoring records?
Sandy?