Eth: a simple poll 3.

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 7 minutes ago
We keep hearing about this bad culture at Utd, but I mean, most of these players are internationals, do they go off to them, act as expected, and then come back to Utd and become different players?

---------------------------------------------------------------------

It is impossible to know. But I have read reports on Sancho being repeatedly late for England meetings for the U19s and senior team. Apparently its one of the reasons Southgate isn't a huge fan. Greenwood we know was sent home from international duty for breaking COVID rules.

I think it's obv easier to have a good team spirit when the team is doing well etc. But I reckon some managers are just good at developing that spirit - you can imagine Pep, Klopp, Ang, Howe, even Dyche having the players on board.

I can't lie, sometimes I hear ETH talking and just think, shut up man

Stop handing out stupidly high contracts would be a start. I bet over half of these players earn 3 times more than the manager. When some kid comes along and he's on a higher salary than the boss or a senior player in the team, something is seriously wrong with the culture of the club. Not saying its true but I wouldn't be surprised.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 21 minutes ago
Don't think it's fair to blame the culture at the club on EtH, it's been going on for years. Jose mentioned it and people had a go at him for being too Jose, Ole had to deal with it and tried the nice approach and that only worked for so long, Ralf seemed to see straight away the club was toxic and major changes were needed so we got rid and now EtH has come in and tried to instil some discipline and players don't seem to care because they know they'll more than likely outlast the manager.

Yes EtH isn't doing the best job but I'm pretty certain any manager coming into this mess would struggle and so too will the next one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, it’s why changing the men at the top will have a bigger impact than any managerial change long term. It’s been allowed to fester for years by the Glazers. Whether ETH is the right man remains to be seen, he probably isn’t, but I don’t think you can really blame him for struggling at this mess of a football club.

My main concern is this was happening long before Ten Hag came in.

Player FC at the moment

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 21 minutes ago
Don't think it's fair to blame the culture at the club on EtH, it's been going on for years. Jose mentioned it and people had a go at him for being too Jose, Ole had to deal with it and tried the nice approach and that only worked for so long, Ralf seemed to see straight away the club was toxic and major changes were needed so we got rid and now EtH has come in and tried to instil some discipline and players don't seem to care because they know they'll more than likely outlast the manager.

Yes EtH isn't doing the best job but I'm pretty certain any manager coming into this mess would struggle and so too will the next one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, it’s why changing the men at the top will have a bigger impact than any managerial change long term. It’s been allowed to fester for years by the Glazers. Whether ETH is the right man remains to be seen, he probably isn’t, but I don’t think you can really blame him for struggling at this mess of a football club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I agree with both comments here.

The one thing I will blame ETH for is falling in the same trap a lot of managers do which is signing players from your previous club or whom you have previously worked with.

This often does not work out especially when moving between leagues of a vastly different standard.

The problem with this is that EtH should never have the powers to do that, that isn't how the vast majority of successful club are run, just us because the Glazer's don't care.

Now that Ineos are here and seem to have a plan that involves bringing in people to do that job instead of the manager hopefully we'll see some changes. Whether or not EtH is the man to help make that a success I don't know but I do think that he's had a lot of sh-t to deal with this season.

1 - being, let's see how Eth works under Jim and the new structure.

comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
1 - being, let's see how Eth works under Jim and the new structure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The guy has broke us financially with terrible signings, wake up Vengeance he doesn’t deserve even the next game, will go down as the most disastrous managerial
Appointment in our history as we try to balance things after with FFP, not a single chance he is our manager next season and good rid

comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
1 - being, let's see how Eth works under Jim and the new structure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The guy has broke us financially with terrible signings, wake up Vengeance he doesn’t deserve even the next game, will go down as the most disastrous managerial
Appointment in our history as we try to balance things after with FFP, not a single chance he is our manager next season and good rid
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How are we financially broken?! And suggesting Eth has broken us financially in 18 months is the most ridiculously absurd notion I have come across here.

The financial mismanagement is the club's doing and saying otherwise is peddling fake news by a stereotypically silly footy fan. You are so self absorbed by your agenda that you have completely made your senses redundant!