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United value Greenwood at £43m

Saw a couple of reports yesterday that we have held meetings with Barca about Greenwood and that we have told them that we want £43m for him.

What do you think? A fair price? I would say that before his issues, Greenwood was probably worth circa £100m. In view of what has happened since then, I would say that anything over £40m would be good business for us.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/3/24

I've managed to find a reasonable article on the matter here, albeit it's in The Daily Mail. I've read a more indepth article elsewhere years ago. I think it was in The Guardian. Will keep looking.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5445085/Man-United-contract-extension-clauses.html

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/3/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 36 seconds ago
Yes I get that. But nowhere has it been stated that those extensions include a pay rise.
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I've read it a few times in different places. The lad I know that's and agent also said its pretty common.

posted on 14/3/24



I’ve not looked into it too much. I don’t remember it ever being mentioned when we did it with Pogba and there was so much talk about the same being done with De Gea but didn’t see much about a wage increase.

I’m sure it happens, of course. You’d suspect it depends on the player.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/3/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 16 minutes ago


I’ve not looked into it too much. I don’t remember it ever being mentioned when we did it with Pogba and there was so much talk about the same being done with De Gea but didn’t see much about a wage increase.

I’m sure it happens, of course. You’d suspect it depends on the player.
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And the agent. But it'd be a missed opportunity if they aren't negotiating it.

posted on 15/3/24

The £43m is what auctioneers call a come and get me valuation. They are hoping to provoke bids from more than one club and a bidding war. It’ll be interesting to see how toxic he still is, but I bet he goes for a good bit more than £43m.

posted on 15/3/24

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
also if this method is typically used in order to help sell the player why on earth would increasing his wages help this. would increase the wages expected when he moves and would eat into any extra profit the club would make.
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There's 2 sides to agreeing a contract.

Such a 5+1 triggered only by the club is totally stacked in the clubs favour. They don't even have to want the player, they may just be interested in retaining his sale value.

I would expect my agent, if i were a footballer, to be saying "if you want this +1 extension totally at your discretion, which would deny my client the opportunity to walk away for free and set his own wage level, then I would expect a wage increase for this final year".

Either that or that both parties have to agree to the extension.

The +1 year could be the difference between getting £0m and £40m to United in the Greenwood situation and the agent/player want that added, in the clubs favour, without the player having any benefit?

I don't know what the industry norm is but i would be very surprised if top agents allowed this 'no win' situation to occur within their clients contract.
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its a clause that usually added to younger players who dont have the background and history to make strong demands, and to them its possibly an extra year of wages. Yes its stacked in the clubs favour but its usually with players that do not have more power than the club, a young player is usually desperate to sign for them and therefore happy to accept they terms.

You dont tend to see deals like this with established top players
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DDG, Lindeloft, Varane disagree with you !
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the word "tend" and "never" have different meanings

posted on 15/3/24

I wouldn't pay 43p for him

posted on 15/3/24

comment by 2-4-5.Trioxin (U22964)
posted 20 minutes ago
I wouldn't pay 43p for him
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No, given your recent transfer window, you’d pay 3x the 43m

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 days, 18 hours ago
There could be a number of them. An obvious one is a player that is having injury issues, having that extra year to recover and get yourself into a better position to find a new club works in their favour.
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Not if is is 100% at the clubs discretion as to whether they extend or not and who is going to extend the contract of an injured player

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

Getafe believe Manchester United have triggered an extension clause in Mason Greenwood’s contract that will strengthen their bargaining position this summer, according to reports.

The 22-year-old has not played for the Red Devils since January 2022 after being arrested for attempted rape, controlling behaviour and assault.

All charges were dropped at the start of last year and, following a lengthy internal investigation, United were considering reintegrating him into the squad but were forced into a rethink following a major backlash.

He moved to Spain instead on deadline day last summer and has started to revive his career, netting six times and laying on five assists in 25 appearances on loan for Getafe in La Liga.

Greenwood’s strong form has attracted the attention of a number of European clubs, with Atletico Madrid and Barcelona both believed to be keen, while Italian giants Juventus have also been linked with a move.

United were expected to cash in this summer in large part due to Greenwood’s precarious contract situation, with his current deal due to expire in the summer of 2025.

If he were to stay beyond this summer, United would risk losing him for nothing in a year’s time, with the forward able to hold talks with foreign clubs regarded a free transfer from January.

As is the case with most of their contracts, United included a clause in Greenwood’s deal that allows them to automatically trigger a one-year extension that keeps him at the club until 2026.

There was thought to be some degree of concern over the optics of extending Greenwood’s deal considering the previous backlash, but now The Athletic are reporting that it may already have happened.

At Getafe, there is a belief that the contract clause has already been triggered with the Spanish club coming away from talks with United chiefs with the understanding that Greenwood’s deal will run until 2026.

United insist no such decision has been taken yet, while they are in no rush to activate the option given they can do it at any point up to May 2025. While they are under no obligation to do so, the club would generally announce if the contract extension had been triggered – or at the very least brief the media.

There are suggestions that it may be in Getafe’s interests for rival clubs to assume that Greenwood still has two years left on his contract, as it both increases their chances of keeping him on loan next season and ups the price United can expect to receive.

That latter point is an important one, with the terms of Greenwood’s loan meaning Getafe are entitled to 20 per cent of any sale.

The ultimate decision over whether to trigger Greenwood’s extension will lie with new minority owners Ineos, with Sir Jim Ratcliffe saying earlier this year: ‘We will make a decision, correct.

‘All I can do is talk about the principle of how we will approach decisions like that. Is he the right type of footballer, are we happy with if he is a good person or not?

‘He’s a Manchester United footballer, so we are in charge of football.

‘So the answer is, ‘yeah, we have to make decisions’. It’s quite clear we have to make a decision. There is no decision that’s been made. He’s on-loan obviously, but he’s not the only one. We’ve got one or two footballers that we have to deal with and we have to make a decision on, so we will do that.

‘The process will be: understand the facts not the hype, and then try and come to fair decision on the basis of values, which is basically is he a good guy or not?

‘Could he play sincerely for Manchester United, would we be comfortable with it and would the fans be comfortable with it?’

https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/02/getafe-believe-man-utd-secretly-extended-mason-greenwoods-contract-20570688/
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As expected really. United deciding to take up their 'automatic option' to extend his contract by a further year.

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