Trying to walk the ball in..

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.

Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.

In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.

Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.

Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.

In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.

Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
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It was more negative the last few years yeah. Another factor is that Son has started increasing his goal output as he's reached his peak. And we added a good squad option in Richarlison, which I guess we hadn't before. I know he failed last season with 1 goal but that was more a one off.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.

Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.

In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.

Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.

It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.

If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
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Logic dictates that you would be, although it isn't a given. My point was more that it's not always about the better player overall, but the player who best fits the needs of the team and the system. Partnerships like Kane & Son are important too of course, but imo it's more a case of how all the moving parts fit together.

comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.

Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.

In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.

Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
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Well, I read on here a few days ago that your current numbers compare favourably to Poch's first season, and also to the season you were trying to chase down Leicester, so no, not just the past years under the more defensive managers. Unless you mean to imply that you were also negative under Poch. In which case, welcome back, Sandy.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.

Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.

In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.

Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.

It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.

If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
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Logic dictates that you would be, although it isn't a given. My point was more that it's not always about the better player overall, but the player who best fits the needs of the team and the system. Partnerships like Kane & Son are important too of course, but imo it's more a case of how all the moving parts fit together.
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Kane might not be the perfect fit for an Ange team but I'm pretty sure we would make it work. It was said that Haaland wasn't a good fit for a Pep team and they made it more than work.

You've got to think with Kane up front we'd convert more of our chances and create a few more. In our injury hit period, no way we lose all of those with Kane playing.

did you see that ludicrous display last night

the thing about Tottenham is they always think theyre the Harlem Globe trotters

For the last 4 years we have a net spent of knocking on £100m a year. On players. Plus the stadium.
You people are in total dreamland thinking we can just keep buying players indefinitely.
We're damn lucky to have the squad we've got and should be bloody grateful for it.

https://images.app.goo.gl/8TWwiYdgwf7tgYWw7