The worst excuse yet?

Today was like an all time low since VAR was introduced. So many easy decisions ignored. Funny they gave us a pen midweek just as the ball was hitting the net but deny us clear pens today.

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 2 minutes ago
Today was like an all time low since VAR was introduced. So many easy decisions ignored. Funny they gave us a pen midweek just as the ball was hitting the net but deny us clear pens today.
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The only one today that perhaps should have been a pen was the one on Garnacho in the second half. If the ref gives that, it's not likely to be overturned.

The one on him in the first half? The defender clearly gets the ball.

The handball? It was virtually identical to the Coventry one last week that we all agree shouldn't have been a pen. Let's not be hypocrites, even if the officials are incompetent.

The fourth pen? I imagine you've seen the same four photos / vids and I have and that stamp on the foot was nowhere near the box!

No idea why I'm engaging you but we weren't exactly robbed today

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 4 minutes ago
Today was like an all time low since VAR was introduced. So many easy decisions ignored. Funny they gave us a pen midweek just as the ball was hitting the net but deny us clear pens today.
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Yeah they give us a pen when we don't need it, don't award us anything when we need it. Life is a b!atch.

Hardly see me here as not much else to say about this fraud. I hope, for his wife sake, this fool does not gaslight her like he thinks he is doing to us. A criminal. A fraudulent manager. This is not a Manchester United manager.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 9 seconds ago
Hardly see me here as not much else to say about this fraud. I hope, for his wife sake, this fool does not gaslight her like he thinks he is doing to us. A criminal. A fraudulent manager. This is not a Manchester United manager.
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I'll be astounded if he's still around beyond the end of the season. There's being diligent and not rushing decisions and then there's dereliction of duty.

I do worry about who will replace him though. I was genuinely excited about ETH and loved his credentials. I doubt the next guy's will be as strong, so I'll probably underwhelmed. So hopefully they'll exceed my expectations.

Regardless, without wholesale changes on the playing side, we'll continue to see lazy capitulations and childish, spoiled, passive aggressive bratty social media behaviour. I don't think our players even have enough self awareness to realise how poorly their social media antics reflect on them. It also says a lot for how poorly advised they are. Spoiled, mollycoddled and surrounded by yes men.

Rant over

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
At least we had four players who came through the
academy. Not many top teams can say that.
And more to come I believe.
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Definitely one of ETH's main highlights is harnessing talent nurtured by the club. The academy, especially the U18s, are making great strides and ETH, to his credit, is recognising the potential. I really hope he integrates more talent. Recently he rewarded Wheatley with an appearance off the bench. It sends a great message to our academy that if you do well age is no barrier!

I have no doubt that our strategic approach, under the new structure, will focus on recruiting potential with a consistent playing style that permeates from the first team down.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
posted 5 hours, 32 minutes ago

Obviously it doesn't follow we'll go on the same trajectory but didn't Klopp's Liverpool play pretty open, naive football for a while before it clicked. Signing Fabinho, Allison and VVD helped of course too!

I do think he's done but you never know do you?

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Loose but not as loose as Utd. Main reason is the transfer strategy followed a certain pattern to allow them to achieve certain milestones before they were able to recruit the main spine of their side. It helped having a competent DoF who shaped Klopp's squad, allowing them to play a particular brand of football.

Throughout Klopp's tenure, even during the period they were considered to play "loose", there was a pattern, there was incremental improvements. Klopp alone could not have achieved this, without a DoF. If Klopp had his way Salah would not be playing (credit: RR for introducing this gem via a different thread!).

If only ETH had the same structure afforded to Klopp, maybe then we could have seen some improvements. Great last season (mostly, poor towards the end), dire this season. Fluctuating performances across two seasons is the result of no DoF, a scatter gun transfer strategy that focussed on statements over playing abilities, over addressing deficiencies, short term ism over long term stability and success.

comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
posted 5 hours, 32 minutes ago

Obviously it doesn't follow we'll go on the same trajectory but didn't Klopp's Liverpool play pretty open, naive football for a while before it clicked. Signing Fabinho, Allison and VVD helped of course too!

I do think he's done but you never know do you?

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Loose but not as loose as Utd. Main reason is the transfer strategy followed a certain pattern to allow them to achieve certain milestones before they were able to recruit the main spine of their side. It helped having a competent DoF who shaped Klopp's squad, allowing them to play a particular brand of football.

Throughout Klopp's tenure, even during the period they were considered to play "loose", there was a pattern, there was incremental improvements. Klopp alone could not have achieved this, without a DoF. If Klopp had his way Salah would not be playing (credit: RR for introducing this gem via a different thread!).
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He wanted Brandt, didn't he? But the analytics dept informed him that Salah was a better fit. Brandt is a very fun player to watch tbf but he doesn't have an output close to that of Salah

comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
posted 5 hours, 32 minutes ago

Obviously it doesn't follow we'll go on the same trajectory but didn't Klopp's Liverpool play pretty open, naive football for a while before it clicked. Signing Fabinho, Allison and VVD helped of course too!

I do think he's done but you never know do you?

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Loose but not as loose as Utd. Main reason is the transfer strategy followed a certain pattern to allow them to achieve certain milestones before they were able to recruit the main spine of their side. It helped having a competent DoF who shaped Klopp's squad, allowing them to play a particular brand of football.

Throughout Klopp's tenure, even during the period they were considered to play "loose", there was a pattern, there was incremental improvements. Klopp alone could not have achieved this, without a DoF. If Klopp had his way Salah would not be playing (credit: RR for introducing this gem via a different thread!).
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He wanted Brandt, didn't he? But the analytics dept informed him that Salah was a better fit. Brandt is a very fun player to watch tbf but he doesn't have an output close to that of Salah
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And the rest is history!