rather than if, Levy pulls the trigger on Ange. We are moving into Poch sacking territory now. Away form has dropped off a cliff, home form is patchy, able to beat the cannon fodder, but roll over against any decent side. Rarely keep a clean sheet, forwards that are not scoring. A combination that all adds up to only one thing. A sacking is on the horizon.
The mentality of the players and managers in any so called big games over the past 20 or so seasons is just so bad. Spurs have won just once at the Emirates in the Prem in 30 seasons, yet Arsenal have just won three in a row at Tottenham. Just let that sink in. The same with Chelsea, they will record a hat-trick from their last three visits when they turn up. Yet Spurs cannot ever turn up at Stamford Bridge to save their life, same record one win in about 30 years.
Arsenal didn`t even have to be very good either to win yesterday. Was Saka even playing, completely anonymous, but they still found a way to exploit Spurs massive weakness at the back, the goalie and the so called world class CB at a set piece corner.
Even after four games the Prem is pretty well done. All of the top half a dozen teams will beat Spurs home and away, that`s 12 defeats straight off, throw in the inevitable home or away defeat at West Ham, Brighton, Fulham and Wolves and there you already have something like 16-18 losses. Spurs will beat the very poorest and probably end up with something like 50-55 points top this season. That will be like 9th/10th position in all probability. Best they can hope for, unless something changes dramatically between now and May.
Even the cups, do they really offer Spurs a chance of winning one. I doubt it. Even with decent draws domestically, sooner or later they will face a decent side, and get rolled over. The European competition also has some half decent sides in, so whilst they may get to the knockouts, they don`t have the minerals to go that far.
There are some major problems throughout the whole team that are starting to surface. At the back Vicario, after a bright start, is now looking like one of the worse goalies in the Prem. Romero is vastly overrated, and as somebody said on another forum I was on. He strolls around like Vinnie Jones, but when it comes to actually defending he looks like Corporal Jones. Bentancur and Maddison are going alarmingly backwards and Son is clearly way past his best, and the fact that he is club captain sums up the state of the club.
Going forward Ange now needs to start trusting some his younger players, Gray needs to be starting. Bergvall, Sarr and Bissouma should be the midfield trio, like to see three CBs, and two strikers when Richarlison is fit, if he ever is. A change of plan is needed bigtime. Cannot be any worse.
All in all quite depressing, especially as we all had high hopes the defence was sorted when Lloris, Sanchez, Dier, Emerson were all gone, and the new defence put together. But in reality nothing has really changed at the back. Still concede every game. Still make the same mistakes at set pieces. Goalie gets bullied and rooted to his line like Lloris used to be, but perhaps even worse, if that is possible.
I expect Spurs will get past Brentford at the weekend, but then suffer back to back away defeats at Man United and Brighton, that would mean just seven points from seven games going into games against West Ham, Palace and Aston Villa, three absolute banana skins of matches. Game could be up for Ange by the end of Oct/early Nov.
We can only live in hope that things will somehow improve. COYS.
I think it is only a matter of when,
posted on 16/9/24
I think you're right for the most part but barely any mention of Levy as the architect behind this mess.
Let's be real. Nothing will change all the time he's in charge. We'll screw up, lose matches, Ange will be gone and the fans will look to the next mug to save things. It's the same thing over and over and over again.
At what point are we going to accept that we've had some really high profile managers in charge of us and they've all failed on some level. Even when we did come close, that manager, who I won't name in case your ears bleed Sandy , wasn't backed when he needed to be. I'd much rather we all aimed our boos at the boardroom and not the touchline, and certainly not individual players. We're all frustrated at Johnson but abusing him directly online is classless and completely counter-productive. Yeah, tell a player low on confidence he's shiiiit, that'll improve him
The club is broken and changing the manager won't fix that. All the time the priority is profit over success we won't do anything of note. Trophies are considered a 'nice to have' rather than an essential driving force behind any club manifesto.
Joke club.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think you're right for the most part but barely any mention of Levy as the architect behind this mess.
Let's be real. Nothing will change all the time he's in charge. We'll screw up, lose matches, Ange will be gone and the fans will look to the next mug to save things. It's the same thing over and over and over again.
At what point are we going to accept that we've had some really high profile managers in charge of us and they've all failed on some level. Even when we did come close, that manager, who I won't name in case your ears bleed Sandy, wasn't backed when he needed to be. I'd much rather we all aimed our boos at the boardroom and not the touchline, and certainly not individual players. We're all frustrated at Johnson but abusing him directly online is classless and completely counter-productive. Yeah, tell a player low on confidence he's shiiiit, that'll improve him
The club is broken and changing the manager won't fix that. All the time the priority is profit over success we won't do anything of note. Trophies are considered a 'nice to have' rather than an essential driving force behind any club manifesto.
Joke club.
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Levy aint going anywhere so no point. U gonna send him hate mail to his address?
posted on 16/9/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think you're right for the most part but barely any mention of Levy as the architect behind this mess.
Let's be real. Nothing will change all the time he's in charge. We'll screw up, lose matches, Ange will be gone and the fans will look to the next mug to save things. It's the same thing over and over and over again.
At what point are we going to accept that we've had some really high profile managers in charge of us and they've all failed on some level. Even when we did come close, that manager, who I won't name in case your ears bleed Sandy, wasn't backed when he needed to be. I'd much rather we all aimed our boos at the boardroom and not the touchline, and certainly not individual players. We're all frustrated at Johnson but abusing him directly online is classless and completely counter-productive. Yeah, tell a player low on confidence he's shiiiit, that'll improve him
The club is broken and changing the manager won't fix that. All the time the priority is profit over success we won't do anything of note. Trophies are considered a 'nice to have' rather than an essential driving force behind any club manifesto.
Joke club.
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I've been a critic of Levy for the longest time but I think criticism of him now is more misplaced. We could definitely have targeted better players in the summer and signing Werner shows a lack of ambition, however you can't really argue that he hasn't backed the manager in the way previous managers like Poch weren't backed. Ange has got to spend over £350m in a very short space of time and we've been made aware he indeed wanted some of these players, particularly in attack. I mean the frailties shown during our set pieces is most definitely not a Levy thing.
posted on 16/9/24
Literally no point sacking Ange and just bringing in the next poor sod with the poison chalice, of trying to make Spurs successful while buying the likes of Werner and Solanke
We don’t buy good enough players to challenge and so you could have Pep as manager for all intents and purposes even he can’t polish a tuuuurd and get average joes to beat the top sides
May as well keep Ange and come 5th - 8th with him as anyone else
Because I for one am sick of the rinse and repeat of Enic regime
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by burghandy (U10383)
posted 32 minutes ago
Ange needs the season.
Hopefully Levy has learnt his lesson after he sacked Poch but I don't bet on it!
Performances have improved from the same fixtures we had last season.
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Only form will dictate if Ange gets the season. I honestly feel Levy is going to pull the trigger if we're languishing in midtable somewhere by next month.
People will use Arteta as an example of giving a manager time but Arteta did win an FA Cup early doors and never spent anywhere near as much as Ange.
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Seven London derbies against Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham, won 0, drawn 2 lost 5. I think Ange is done if he cannot get the team up for these sort of matches.
posted on 16/9/24
There’s some good players at Spurs, but not enough of them, to be successful…
The only way you’re going to win titles & trophies, is by buying world class players… & spending big…
Levy always buys for the future… & hope they come good…
Occasionally he’ll spend big on a player… but it’s never successful…
I think that Son, Werner, Johnson & Davies will need to go, in the summer… with major upgrades needed!!
posted on 16/9/24
Do away with Ange now and get Tuchel in whilst his available
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Conn & Duncan..Scottish Legends (U15636)
posted 2 minutes ago
There’s some good players at Spurs, but not enough of them, to be successful…
The only way you’re going to win titles & trophies, is by buying world class players… & spending big…
Levy always buys for the future… & hope they come good…
Occasionally he’ll spend big on a player… but it’s never successful…
I think that Son, Werner, Johnson & Davies will need to go, in the summer… with major upgrades needed!!
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This is a perpetual problem. By the time the likes of Gray and Bergvall do come good, even if they do so much time will have passed that the likes of Romero and VDV will likely have moved on and got better offers. How are you supposed to build a winning team if you're looking at success in 5 years? Players don't want to be a part of that, particularly the older ones. Kane fell for that bullshiiiit and, against his better judgement, stuck around for far too long.
What took place over the summer I would call squad neglect. To bring in a bunch of kids and send packing seasoned pros like PEH without getting in any adequate replacement is both unfair on the young players coming through and the fans that pay their money. Those youngster now have no experience to lean on when times get tough. Son is carrying the can for everyone in that regard. It's honestly an absolute joke and it's all because Levy wants to cut costs.
They'd like to have you believe that everything is rosey. Lovely stadium, beautiful training ground, fantastic academy prospects. But it all sits on what can only be described as an utter bed of cvnts drooling over each pound coin that rolls their way.
Nothing will change under this ownership. Guaranteed.
posted on 16/9/24
The only person that should be booed or abused online is Levy, he is the only man to blame and he has outstayed his welcome at Spurs
posted on 17/9/24
Sandy,...if I wrote what you've written here, I'd be accused of "moaning" about Spurs. And of "not being a Spurs supporter at all".
Tell me, how do you get away with writing this stuff?
Actually most of it is spot on true!
Except you and I differ on Romero.
Also, the back four,...Porro,Romero,Vdv,Udogie
are as good as any back four in the league.
They are helping the midfield out every game.
I said before the season started that the results of our first 4 games would indicate what our season would be like.....4 points out of 12!
So now we know.
Mid table at best.
Now about the manager. I call him Aussieglue and his feet really are stuck...he's turned out to be a one trick pony, and every manager now knows very well how to play against him.
Arsenal gave a demonstration: ...,sit back, defend, let us have the ball, and hit on the counter.
Newcastle did the same.
I said he'd be gone by Christmas! It just took the other managers a little more time than I thought to figure him out.