Tritax is negotiating a land deal to move Freightliner's Old Trafford rail terminal to St Helens, enabling Manchester United to expand its stadium redevelopment. The relocation would free up land for around 20,000 homes and ease rail bottlenecks between Manchester and Liverpool. The proposed new site at Parkside East, St Helens, is part of a larger regeneration plan, potentially creating 90,000 jobs and boosting the UK economy by £7.3bn annually. A new passenger station near Old Trafford is also part of the masterplan.
Additionally, Manchester United's Old Trafford redevelopment will not receive public funding, according to Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham. The club is deciding between a new £2bn, 100,000-seat stadium or renovating the existing one. He also urged government backing for connecting the new Parkside terminal to the West Coast Main Line to improve the region's rail system.
Source: BBC News - No public cash going to Man Utd stadium plan - mayor
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wkpqegd89o
https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/tritax-in-play-to-move-old-trafford-rail-terminal-to-st-helens/
Stadium update
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
In think that in the cold light of day since Jim's initial public proclomations of his dream of a 'Wembley In The North' along side a cut-down existing stadium 'for the girls', the reality is that the best option will probably be a refurb to the existing one in the end. Gary Neville (who is on the exec planning panel) is now openly talking up the refurb option these days.
I just need a decent modern stadium where all things work properly (with large TV screens at each end) that I can park up close to and get in and out and away from on match days (especially evening games) as quickly as possible. It seems they want to create something new completely opposite to that which encourages you to stay around after games. Why would you want to do that especially on a wet and windy school night? Like tonight for example.
Lifts or escalators would be nice if you have seats right at the top tier, especially for older fans.
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The road links into and out of Old Trafford are awful. I have to get on the M6 and it takes as long getting from OT to the motorway as it does driving 70 miles home from there.
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Who'd have thought that 70 odd thousand people trying to drive in their own individual vehicles to a small area of a city, at the same time, might create problems.
posted on 24/9/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 minutes ago
Who is going to pay for it. Ineos isn't
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It usually free money. A good real estate development plan draws in lots of investment.
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
In think that in the cold light of day since Jim's initial public proclomations of his dream of a 'Wembley In The North' along side a cut-down existing stadium 'for the girls', the reality is that the best option will probably be a refurb to the existing one in the end. Gary Neville (who is on the exec planning panel) is now openly talking up the refurb option these days.
I just need a decent modern stadium where all things work properly (with large TV screens at each end) that I can park up close to and get in and out and away from on match days (especially evening games) as quickly as possible. It seems they want to create something new completely opposite to that which encourages you to stay around after games. Why would you want to do that especially on a wet and windy school night? Like tonight for example.
Lifts or escalators would be nice if you have seats right at the top tier, especially for older fans.
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The road links into and out of Old Trafford are awful. I have to get on the M6 and it takes as long getting from OT to the motorway as it does driving 70 miles home from there.
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Who'd have thought that 70 odd thousand people trying to drive in their own individual vehicles to a small area of a city, at the same time, might create problems.
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OK. thats funny.
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 minutes ago
Who is going to pay for it. Ineos isn't
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It usually free money. A good real estate development plan draws in lots of investment.
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Free money?
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
I also find it to be a bit of a waste of money that the vast majority of fans will not benefit from.
Only a tiny percentage of our millions of fans worldwide attend matches yet we are going to spend BILLIONS so that a few thousand people can have a shiny new seat? That's it, essentially?
Spend the money on the team so that all of our fans can benefit.
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thats the spirit,
Or you could just treat yourself and visit Manchester and support and watch your team play, occassionally.
posted on 24/9/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
I also find it to be a bit of a waste of money that the vast majority of fans will not benefit from.
Only a tiny percentage of our millions of fans worldwide attend matches yet we are going to spend BILLIONS so that a few thousand people can have a shiny new seat? That's it, essentially?
Spend the money on the team so that all of our fans can benefit.
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thats the spirit,
Or you could just treat yourself and visit Manchester and support and watch your team play, occassionally.
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As someone who used to have a season ticket, I do not recommend this option. Not when you can go to B&Q and test how quickly their paint samples dry…
posted on 24/9/24
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
I also find it to be a bit of a waste of money that the vast majority of fans will not benefit from.
Only a tiny percentage of our millions of fans worldwide attend matches yet we are going to spend BILLIONS so that a few thousand people can have a shiny new seat? That's it, essentially?
Spend the money on the team so that all of our fans can benefit.
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thats the spirit,
Or you could just treat yourself and visit Manchester and support and watch your team play, occassionally.
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As someone who used to have a season ticket, I do not recommend this option. Not when you can go to B&Q and test how quickly their paint samples dry…
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well I recommend attending matches to any United 'fan'
posted on 24/9/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
I also find it to be a bit of a waste of money that the vast majority of fans will not benefit from.
Only a tiny percentage of our millions of fans worldwide attend matches yet we are going to spend BILLIONS so that a few thousand people can have a shiny new seat? That's it, essentially?
Spend the money on the team so that all of our fans can benefit.
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thats the spirit,
Or you could just treat yourself and visit Manchester and support and watch your team play, occassionally.
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As someone who used to have a season ticket, I do not recommend this option. Not when you can go to B&Q and test how quickly their paint samples dry…
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well I recommend attending matches to any United 'fan'
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I'm the biggest us fan out there but going to matches is just not worth the time or money. I went to one match and there was literally no commentary. It was very difficult to understand what was going on. There were no replays. I want to see an incident back to see what happened. I had to go in an end stand and the view made no sense. How does anyone watch a match from the non side view? More needs to be spent on getting matches to more fans on TV. Going to matches is massively outdated and will soon be a thing of the past. And rightly so
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
I also find it to be a bit of a waste of money that the vast majority of fans will not benefit from.
Only a tiny percentage of our millions of fans worldwide attend matches yet we are going to spend BILLIONS so that a few thousand people can have a shiny new seat? That's it, essentially?
Spend the money on the team so that all of our fans can benefit.
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thats the spirit,
Or you could just treat yourself and visit Manchester and support and watch your team play, occassionally.
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As someone who used to have a season ticket, I do not recommend this option. Not when you can go to B&Q and test how quickly their paint samples dry…
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well I recommend attending matches to any United 'fan'
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I'm the biggest us fan out there but going to matches is just not worth the time or money. I went to one match and there was literally no commentary. It was very difficult to understand what was going on. There were no replays. I want to see an incident back to see what happened. I had to go in an end stand and the view made no sense. How does anyone watch a match from the non side view? More needs to be spent on getting matches to more fans on TV. Going to matches is massively outdated and will soon be a thing of the past. And rightly so
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OK Barry
posted on 24/9/24
I'm the biggest us fan out there but going to matches is just not worth the time or money. I went to one match and there was literally no commentary. It was very difficult to understand what was going on. There were no replays. I want to see an incident back to see what happened. I had to go in an end stand and the view made no sense. How does anyone watch a match from the non side view? More needs to be spent on getting matches to more fans on TV. Going to matches is massively outdated and will soon be a thing of the past. And rightly so
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But one thing Barry, that you wont want the hear... is that you are probably forecasting a real scenario