I just wanted to go on record in saying I never rated him. Hopefully we can shift him to La Liga (he would probably do well at Atletico).
Anyone still think he is United quality? I just don’t see it.
Lisandro Martinez
posted on 20/12/24
Have we tried him as a DM? I’m sure he played there for Ajax under ETH. Might be a better fit for him in premier league
posted on 21/12/24
Last season he was one of the top 5 CBs in the world according to Pep.
posted on 21/12/24
Pep also said Phil Foden was more talented than Messi
posted on 21/12/24
Still, he recognised his ability on the ball.
This season him and Maguire seem to have swapped powers.
posted on 21/12/24
comment by Ruben's Revamped Reds (U22280)
posted 32 minutes ago
Still, he recognised his ability on the ball.
This season him and Maguire seem to have swapped powers.
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That’s been one of the great happenings - seeing Maguire be half decent. He was always a ‘good’ CB but this season he’s the one CB I feel happiest seeing on the team sheet. Will be revert back to Bambi on ice again? Maybe but for now he’s in the good books.
posted on 21/12/24
comment by Robb - Paddystinian 🫶 (U22716)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Ruben's Revamped Reds (U22280)
posted 32 minutes ago
Still, he recognised his ability on the ball.
This season him and Maguire seem to have swapped powers.
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That’s been one of the great happenings - seeing Maguire be half decent. He was always a ‘good’ CB but this season he’s the one CB I feel happiest seeing on the team sheet. Will be revert back to Bambi on ice again? Maybe but for now he’s in the good books.
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I think the back 3 suits him. Also I think Ruben's rotation is going to benefit him as he's become more injury prone lately.
posted on 21/12/24
Never seen a player get away with cards as much as he does. Its asif refs see the size of him and take pity, need to realise hes called pat butcher of amsterdam for a reason ffs.
posted on 21/12/24
If Amorim can make Maguire look like a top top CB, I imagine Lisandro will be fine under him.
If not Ruben will bin him off, he’s a ruthless winner.
Fact.
posted on 21/12/24
All CBs will look better or worse depending on the extent to which a system or partnership suits their strengths or exposes their weaknesses. Lisandro is good at aggressively stepping in to proactively win duels. He's always been high class at receiving and keeping the ball in tight spaces and at passing through the lines. He's always been vulnerable at one on ones when isolated against a fast attacker, and it's not ideal that the LCB has a lot of space to defend. Could be that in time we upgrade with a player with greater physical suitability, but it's likely this will involve a trade-off whereby we lose some quality on the ball in the process. I can't think of a CB in the world who combines Martinez's ability with elite athleticism.
posted on 21/12/24
comment by Red Russian
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
All CBs will look better or worse depending on the extent to which a system or partnership suits their strengths or exposes their weaknesses. Lisandro is good at aggressively stepping in to proactively win duels. He's always been high class at receiving and keeping the ball in tight spaces and at passing through the lines. He's always been vulnerable at one on ones when isolated against a fast attacker, and it's not ideal that the LCB has a lot of space to defend. Could be that in time we upgrade with a player with greater physical suitability, but it's likely this will involve a trade-off whereby we lose some quality on the ball in the process. I can't think of a CB in the world who combines Martinez's ability with elite athleticism.
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Another Yoro might fit the profile we need, but could Yoro execute or even see that pass for Amad against City? Doubtful. As you rightly point out, it’s the trade off between Licha' s lack of physicality and his quality on the ball, something we’ll have to live with until this issue is resolved, likely, and unfortunately, through a transfer away from Utd.