Prior to this season, we were forced to listen to so called ‘footballing experts’ tell us that Guardiola was the greatest manager of all time- not Fergie. Despite Pep’s record of ready made teams, as well as spend spend spend, Ferguson defenders were apparently ‘in denial’ when trying to put forth an argument for the Scotsman being better than the Catalan.
Fast forward 3 or so months and Guardiola looked like one of the most overrated, overhyped managers of all time- just because of an injury to Rodri. Losing games left, right and centre it seemed like Pep had been caught out at last and was suddenly battling for a top four finish. The world couldn’t believe how awful City looked, just because one holding midfielder was going to be injured for the season.
But this was supposedly the greatest manager of all time. We would surely see some innovative genius with his coaching, his tactics that would bail him out? Not to mention the fact that Guardiola has City’s talented academy prospects to call upon. Palmer, Lavia, Foden et al had all come through the youth set up at City… Pep would easily be able to find a cost effective solution, wouldn’t he??? With a conveyor belt like that…
Except no. Instead we have seen City and Pep simply buy their way out of trouble yet again by embarking on what will no doubt become one of, if not the biggest, January transfer spend the Premier League has ever seen. £50 million agreed on a CB confirmed, they’re about to splash another £60 million on Marmoush and are trying to sign another £30 million defender as well as a DM.
Surely nobody can sit there now and still claim Pep is the greatest ever? His legacy has taken a huge hit this season. Spending his way out of trouble shows that he isn’t fit to lace Fergie’s boots.
Pep’s Legacy Declining? Chequebook Manager!
posted 5 days, 4 hours ago
Pep has routinely walked in to very strong squads and added to them. While that requires a level of 'building' it's building from a Grade B to a Grade A*.
This is what differentiates Fergie from Pep. Pep has never done what Fergie did as Aberdeen and while he had more resources at Utd, it was an exercise in waking a sleeping giant, something that can be very difficult to achieve. He has these on his CV and Pep does not.
If you want to believe gratedbeans argument that 'Pep hasn't bought anyone', ergo it's all done for him not by him, then that strengthens team Fergies position that Pep effectively has done nothing but coach.
As a coach I believe there is none better than Pep but what Fergie has achieved and how he achieved it stands out to me as the greater feat, not.just elevating the clubs to the highest level but to maintain that for so long. Success brings the wealth to be able to spend strongly and both have had that benefit.
posted 5 days ago
theteams Pep toked over were alreddy Grade A
posted 4 days, 22 hours ago
"If you want to believe gratedbeans argument that 'Pep hasn't bought anyone', ergo it's all done for him not by him, then that strengthens team Fergies position that Pep effectively has done nothing but coach."
It's not an argument it's a fact. And he hasn't done anything but coach, because that's his job - to coach, so you can't penalise him for that, and also why people are saying you can't directly compare him to Ferguson.
He did come into a successful side, but one reaching the end of its cycle, You're, Kompany, Aguero, Silva etc, won trophies with them and then oversaw a transition into an even more successful side winning a treble and four titles on the bounce. So the idea of him being unable to coach through a rebuild doesn't stand up either.
posted 4 days, 22 hours ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
theteams Pep toked over were alreddy Grade A
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So what. That's like saying Gordon Ramsey couldn't make beans on toast.
posted 4 days, 20 hours ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
theteams Pep toked over were alreddy Grade A
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So what. That's like saying Gordon Ramsey couldn't make beans on toast.
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was un reeply too the guy who staytied he toked ober Grade B teams
U OAF
posted 4 days, 20 hours ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
theteams Pep toked over were alreddy Grade A
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So what. That's like saying Gordon Ramsey couldn't make beans on toast.
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was un reeply too the guy who staytied he toked ober Grade B teams
U OAF
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Sorry mate it can be tricky to follow a man who speaks Nokia 3310 and doesn't use the reply button
posted 4 days, 16 hours ago
ur 4gived
posted 4 days, 15 hours ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
"If you want to believe gratedbeans argument that 'Pep hasn't bought anyone', ergo it's all done for him not by him, then that strengthens team Fergies position that Pep effectively has done nothing but coach."
It's not an argument it's a fact. And he hasn't done anything but coach, because that's his job - to coach, so you can't penalise him for that, and also why people are saying you can't directly compare him to Ferguson.
He did come into a successful side, but one reaching the end of its cycle, You're, Kompany, Aguero, Silva etc, won trophies with them and then oversaw a transition into an even more successful side winning a treble and four titles on the bounce. So the idea of him being unable to coach through a rebuild doesn't stand up either.
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It's not a fact. It's laughable that you think Pep has no say in who City sign. One of the most detailed thorough perfectionist coaches is just gonna take whatever recruitment hand him
posted 4 days, 15 hours ago
Guardiola is uffshully pade 20m purr yr (plus anuther 20m pade intoo Caveman Island bank that pay no tax on)
twhy?ce as much as any uther coach
prooves hough corrupt Man Cs* r
posted 4 days, 7 hours ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 6 hours, 50 minutes ago
"If you want to believe gratedbeans argument that 'Pep hasn't bought anyone', ergo it's all done for him not by him, then that strengthens team Fergies position that Pep effectively has done nothing but coach."
It's not an argument it's a fact. And he hasn't done anything but coach, because that's his job - to coach, so you can't penalise him for that, and also why people are saying you can't directly compare him to Ferguson.
He did come into a successful side, but one reaching the end of its cycle, You're, Kompany, Aguero, Silva etc, won trophies with them and then oversaw a transition into an even more successful side winning a treble and four titles on the bounce. So the idea of him being unable to coach through a rebuild doesn't stand up either.
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It's not a fact. It's laughable that you think Pep has no say in who City sign. One of the most detailed thorough perfectionist coaches is just gonna take whatever recruitment hand him
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It's not his job though, where do you think he has time to have a comprehensive understanding of emerging global talent when there is a game every 3 days usually?