Fraudiola

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago

Even the blind acorn eventually finds an acorn.
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Confucius or Alvin the Chipmunk?

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Beaten twice by great club side of all time in Barcelona.

I'm 1994 we could only field 3 non UK players as well. Our first 11 that season was without a doubt one of the best 2/3 teams in Europe. Could have easily won it had we been able to play everyone.
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Wasn't it the same for everyone?
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Nah some Spanish and Italian teams had dual nationality loopholes. It was an absolute farce.

Whilst we couldn't even field players from Rep Ireland which is a 40 min flight away 😂
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You're just making crap up.


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Welcome to the world of Walter Mitty.

comment by Robb #456 (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fraud ! With his overall record?
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It's the current Internet buzz phrase. Stupid people do this all the time and 'fraud' is now so over used in football it's cringe.

Everyone some Internet expert doesn't like is supposedly a 'fraud'. It's has no real meaning anymore.

Though I assume this is a wind up post anyway. The op has used one of their 25 accounts to try and get some kind of attention.
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I swear you’re the most miserable poster on these boards. I only have one account on here - which funnily enough you’re now filtered on
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 8 minutes ago
Zero doubt he has failed on the biggest stage and lets not kid ourselves here, City want CL titles more than league ones and winning one after all these years of throwing money at it you are on a par with Mourinhos Porto.
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https://lastwonatrophy.co.uk/wolverhampton-wanderers/

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Beaten twice by great club side of all time in Barcelona.

I'm 1994 we could only field 3 non UK players as well. Our first 11 that season was without a doubt one of the best 2/3 teams in Europe. Could have easily won it had we been able to play everyone.
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Wasn't it the same for everyone?
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Nah some Spanish and Italian teams had dual nationality loopholes. It was an absolute farce.

Whilst we couldn't even field players from Rep Ireland which is a 40 min flight away 😂
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Compleat opposite.

English teems at huge advantidge able too use players from UK n Ireland ffs

Aleays with incowrecked eggscusies

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 12 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Beaten twice by great club side of all time in Barcelona.

I'm 1994 we could only field 3 non UK players as well. Our first 11 that season was without a doubt one of the best 2/3 teams in Europe. Could have easily won it had we been able to play everyone.
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Wasn't it the same for everyone?
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Nah some Spanish and Italian teams had dual nationality loopholes. It was an absolute farce.

Whilst we couldn't even field players from Rep Ireland which is a 40 min flight away 😂
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But we could field Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish players.
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Wasn't it three non English plus two assimilated players?
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I’m not sure the Borg were involved diafol

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 12 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Beaten twice by great club side of all time in Barcelona.

I'm 1994 we could only field 3 non UK players as well. Our first 11 that season was without a doubt one of the best 2/3 teams in Europe. Could have easily won it had we been able to play everyone.
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Wasn't it the same for everyone?
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Nah some Spanish and Italian teams had dual nationality loopholes. It was an absolute farce.

Whilst we couldn't even field players from Rep Ireland which is a 40 min flight away 😂
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But we could field Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish players.
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Wasn't it three non English plus two assimilated players?
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I’m not sure the Borg were involved diafol
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Don't argue. Resistance is futile!

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 8 minutes ago
Zero doubt he has failed on the biggest stage and lets not kid ourselves here, City want CL titles more than league ones and winning one after all these years of throwing money at it you are on a par with Mourinhos Porto.
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https://lastwonatrophy.co.uk/wolverhampton-wanderers/
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Ohhhh, you got me there. I take it all back. The wealthiest club of the last decade in world football winning just one CL trophy and reaching one final is absolutely brilliant based on your reply.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 13 hours, 24 minutes ago

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Beaten twice by great club side of all time in Barcelona.

I'm 1994 we could only field 3 non UK players as well. Our first 11 that season was without a doubt one of the best 2/3 teams in Europe. Could have easily won it had we been able to play everyone.
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Wasn't it the same for everyone?
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Nah some Spanish and Italian teams had dual nationality loopholes. It was an absolute farce.

Whilst we couldn't even field players from Rep Ireland which is a 40 min flight away 😂
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You're just making crap up.

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He's not really wrong.

The rules were changed when English clubs were re-admitted into European competition in 1990.

There was the existing 3 foreigner rule that every club adhered to (and just as important was that European clubs based their transfer policy around this) that didn't change. However, how it was interpreted for English clubs did change.

Previously, anyone playing for an English club only counted as foreign if they were born outside of the UK.

After 1990 this was changed to anyone non English would be counted as foreign for English clubs. There was a little leeway in that English clubs were granted 2 'assimilated' places for players that wouldn't count as foreign if they were UK born but had played at youth level at an English club (so the likes of Hughes, McClair (Aston Villa), Giggs at United). So there could be a maximum of 5 non English players in the team.

English clubs were at a disadvantage immediately because their transfer policies were largely based around players of UK origin, not just English. So many squads were made up of plenty of Scots, Welsh and Irish. There was no foreigner rule really at play. Add into that a smattering of genuine foreign players in the PL and it led to English teams initially having to field weaker teams in European games than in the domestic league.

If you take this team from 1994, which would be considered Uniteds strongest team and won the domestic double:

Schmeichel

Parker Bruce Pallister Irwin

Kanchelskis Keane Ince Giggs

Cantona Hughes


In Europe 2 of those had to be left out, and the 5 subs all had to be English, which is a struggle when your backbone has always been UK based players, not just English.

comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 13 hours, 24 minutes ago

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
Beaten twice by great club side of all time in Barcelona.

I'm 1994 we could only field 3 non UK players as well. Our first 11 that season was without a doubt one of the best 2/3 teams in Europe. Could have easily won it had we been able to play everyone.
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Wasn't it the same for everyone?
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Nah some Spanish and Italian teams had dual nationality loopholes. It was an absolute farce.

Whilst we couldn't even field players from Rep Ireland which is a 40 min flight away 😂
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You're just making crap up.

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He's not really wrong.

The rules were changed when English clubs were re-admitted into European competition in 1990.

There was the existing 3 foreigner rule that every club adhered to (and just as important was that European clubs based their transfer policy around this) that didn't change. However, how it was interpreted for English clubs did change.

Previously, anyone playing for an English club only counted as foreign if they were born outside of the UK.

After 1990 this was changed to anyone non English would be counted as foreign for English clubs. There was a little leeway in that English clubs were granted 2 'assimilated' places for players that wouldn't count as foreign if they were UK born but had played at youth level at an English club (so the likes of Hughes, McClair (Aston Villa), Giggs at United). So there could be a maximum of 5 non English players in the team.

English clubs were at a disadvantage immediately because their transfer policies were largely based around players of UK origin, not just English. So many squads were made up of plenty of Scots, Welsh and Irish. There was no foreigner rule really at play. Add into that a smattering of genuine foreign players in the PL and it led to English teams initially having to field weaker teams in European games than in the domestic league.

If you take this team from 1994, which would be considered Uniteds strongest team and won the domestic double:

Schmeichel

Parker Bruce Pallister Irwin

Kanchelskis Keane Ince Giggs

Cantona Hughes


In Europe 2 of those had to be left out, and the 5 subs all had to be English, which is a struggle when your backbone has always been UK based players, not just English.

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Crap on several accounts. First, the spurious claim regarding Spain and Italy.

Second, you're making out as if the rule tipped the playing field, when in reality what it did was level it up, cancelling out the British clubs' former advantage.

Where was the fairness in England (and Scotland, Wales, and N. Ireland) being granted a competitive advantage by being able to freely pick players from 4 different national associations?

(In all fairness, other countries also had allowances for assimilated players, but only Belgium and the Netherlands appeared to bend the rue as much as the English. Other countries also made it easier for nationals of the former colonies to obtain citizenship.)

Three: by 1994 United had had 3 years to adapt to the rule change, but rather than do so, they continued to swell their foreign player ranks. Schmeichel and Cantona, for example, were both signed in the intervening period. So if United chose to focus their efforts more on domestic football, that was entirely United's own business.

And by way of comparison, just 3 years after the rule was changed again in 1996, United lined up in the CL final with 7 foreign-born players, so it shouldn't have been that difficult to adapt.

Finally, as for SE85's statement that you could 'easily' have won the CL, it's worth remembering that you were put out by a Turkish team with only 2 foreigners and 1 assimilated player in their entire squad, who then failed to win a single one of their group games.

The following year you went out at the group stage, whose first and second-placed teams both went out in the first ko round.

Either side of those two seasons, you endured first round exits in the UEFA Cup, so it's hardly as if you were even coming close to winning in Europe.