Heysel

comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Good article MU52. The 39 victims should never be forgotten, nor the vile animals who killed them.

A stain of English football.
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They were killed by a wall, not people
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One of the reasons I posted it was because I have always believed Liverpool fans were responsible, based on the media at the time.
This is far more nuanced, yes they have to accept some blame, but the police and stadium owners far more.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Good article MU52. The 39 victims should never be forgotten, nor the vile animals who killed them.

A stain of English football.
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They were killed by a wall, not people
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One of the reasons I posted it was because I have always believed Liverpool fans were responsible, based on the media at the time.
This is far more nuanced, yes they have to accept some blame, but the police and stadium owners far more.
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100%

Not that it is in any way an excuse for the behavior at all. A lot of the Liverpool fans there still had the violence put on them the year before by the Roma Ultra's in their head, which will have contributed to a stupid revenge mentality. Attack, before getting attacked. Like I said, no excuse, but that sort of thing will have been on their minds.

The stadium however should never have been able to hold such an event. It failed multiple safety checks and was falling apart. Had it not been falling apart, that wall would not have collapsed.

The authorities didn't stop the overcrowding either.

comment by The God Fowler (U2538)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Good article MU52. The 39 victims should never be forgotten, nor the vile animals who killed them.

A stain of English football.
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They were killed by a wall, not people
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the reasons I posted it was because I have always believed Liverpool fans were responsible, based on the media at the time.
This is far more nuanced, yes they have to accept some blame, but the police and stadium owners far more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100%

Not that it is in any way an excuse for the behavior at all. A lot of the Liverpool fans there still had the violence put on them the year before by the Roma Ultra's in their head, which will have contributed to a stupid revenge mentality. Attack, before getting attacked. Like I said, no excuse, but that sort of thing will have been on their minds.

The stadium however should never have been able to hold such an event. It failed multiple safety checks and was falling apart. Had it not been falling apart, that wall would not have collapsed.

The authorities didn't stop the overcrowding either.
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Plus by all accounts it started with rocks being thrown at each other across the divide (pieces of the stadium actually), and escalated from there.

But RIP the 39

comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by The God Fowler (U2538)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
Good article MU52. The 39 victims should never be forgotten, nor the vile animals who killed them.

A stain of English football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They were killed by a wall, not people
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One of the reasons I posted it was because I have always believed Liverpool fans were responsible, based on the media at the time.
This is far more nuanced, yes they have to accept some blame, but the police and stadium owners far more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100%

Not that it is in any way an excuse for the behavior at all. A lot of the Liverpool fans there still had the violence put on them the year before by the Roma Ultra's in their head, which will have contributed to a stupid revenge mentality. Attack, before getting attacked. Like I said, no excuse, but that sort of thing will have been on their minds.

The stadium however should never have been able to hold such an event. It failed multiple safety checks and was falling apart. Had it not been falling apart, that wall would not have collapsed.

The authorities didn't stop the overcrowding either.
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Plus by all accounts it started with rocks being thrown at each other across the divide (pieces of the stadium actually), and escalated from there.

But RIP the 39
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Exactly this (I was there)
The ground underneath everyone's feet was crumbling away into fist sized lumps of rock.
I don't know who started it (if that's even relevant) - the first thing I saw was both sets of fans (Ok, a minority of each) going hammer & tongs at each other
A lot of Liverpool fans were incensed that not only were Juve allocated one full end of the stadium, but also a good 20/30% of our end.

14 walls were charged with manslaughter.

Let's not try point scoring on here yeah?

comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 14 minutes ago
Let's not try point scoring on here yeah?
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I agree. I hoped many would find it enlightening, as I did.

I have read the article and the posts on this thread now, you’re right, it’s very informative.

I have learned that DJ is a complete and utter 🛎️🔚

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 hours, 26 minutes ago
14 walls were charged with manslaughter.
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Still a total aѕѕhole then aren't you
Not that you'll see this because you filtered me

comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 hours, 26 minutes ago
14 walls were charged with manslaughter.
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Still a total aѕѕhole then aren't you
Not that you'll see this because you filtered me
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Cowardly weasel has got half the site filtered!