LIW we need at least 9 players to build a promotion aiming squad do you think Bates is gonna back him?
I dont
How many did grayson bring in ???
LIW
Surely you don't believe Bates when he says that SG had a warchest of cash to spend as he pleased., but he chose to only spend it on loans.
I expect much of the same treatment for Warnock.
I hope I am wrong
LIW
Surely you don't believe Bates when he says that SG had a warchest of cash to spend as he pleased., but he chose to only spend it on loans.
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Yes I totally believe that, its how grayson works.
Rubbish.
Stevie wonder could see what bates is up to.
Utter rubbish
He gets a pot and he can do what he wants with it, is the pot big enough, no.
Bates said this what happens, grayson said that what happens.
I'm not denying that.
How can anyone bring in quality signings that aren't freebies or loans when the pot isn't even big enough to pis s in
Spend less on loans and dont waste it on pugh
Well we shall see what happens.
LIW
you know that the 9.5 million pot isnt enough to sign the players we need!
Love warnocks "back me or sack me" attitude
He already has his eye on 3/4 players and you can guarantee they are going to be proper players
If we spend less on loans it makes no difference...
The key point is that Harvey and Bates have a rigid and immovable wage structure in place and any player who comes in whether he be signed on a free or a 3million transfer fee, must agree a wage within this wage structure...
Grayson couldn't sign anyone above a certain wage, hence why we signed so much mediocre rubbish.
Bates can say all he likes about the pot. but the fact is Harvey is insistent on this salary cap and does not want anyone earning a competitive championship salary i.. 15k + a week, because he knows the wages will spiral from there!
Warnock will have to fight like never before this summer with the board, just to get those 4 players, who i'm guessing will all want a competitive wage... something that we haven't been offering for the last 5 years.
Collin
The average wage in the Champ are 4K
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2055140/Premier-League-wages-FIVE-times-Championship.html
So why the hell you saying 15k is a competitive salary.
IS IT F U C K its nearly FOUR TIMES THE AVERAGE.
Yes I agree the pot needs to be bigger, but really people need to research better and take the blinkers off.
And the club doesnt have salary cap
how long before LIW has the tag LIW WARNOCK out before Xmas?
Am not has sad to do something like that
LIW that's true about the 4K figures, but they were back in 2009-10 season.
If you take into account teams like Leicester and QPR last season, who didn't even have parachute payments, yet were able to offer crazy wages, it distorts the average up.
Yes we are more competitive than most teams in this division of definitely! But we're not just aiming for a comfy existence in midtable like many teams in this division, out fans would obviously never accept that.
To be a promotion contender you need a Lambert miracle or you need to start paying top 5 level wages.
But we cannot compete with parachute payment clubs, or sugar daddy chairman clubs for wages, and Bates has expressed this point time and time again...
When it comes to signing real quality that any of the promotion chasers are interested in, we always lose out.
Hope I'm wrong this time though, and Warnock gets to sign those 4 quality players this summer
Yes we are more competitive than most teams in this division of definitely! But we're not just aiming for a comfy existence in midtable like many teams in this division, out fans would obviously never accept that.
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Compeletely agree mate
And when your paying the ticket prices we are, you expect more to be spent
Has Warnock joined Leeds United SUPPORTERS Trust, he seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet.
It's now time for the supporters to put the board under as much pressure as we can to make sure or manager get's the required backing he needs.
We are all LU supporters, backing LU doesn't mean you can't question the way it's being run.
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LIW. Sorry don't believe you would tolerate KB in any way shape or form
What Bates calls a war chest I call a tin cup.
SG didn’t get sheit to spend on players and was forced to look for players in the trashcan and in the local pub. And there is not much fecking gold in there.
And I suspect the same for Warnock.
Look, theres 2 ways of thinking about the war chest:
1) Either Bates got sick and tired of Graysons policy of freebies and loans, only to see them picking up wages and either being played out of position, or sat on the bench. Loan players are supposed to be better than the players we already had, and that hardly worked did it.
2) Grayson couldn't attract decent players because they either didn't like the way he managed/coached, or wages were bad.
Over the last few seasons we've all seen players opt to go elsewhere, when its been well known we've been after them. Billy Sharp, Simon Cox, Jason Puncheon, Ricky Lambert ......... All said they were chuffed about the interest, but decided against coming.
None of us know what goes on behind closed doors, and people like me suspect Bates is a twot and untrustworthy. As LIW says, if Bates wants to get back in the good books with all of us, he needs to show some ambition in the market. People like me would then stop banging on about him, because at the end of the day I don't give a sh*te about Bates, only the club, and I'm sick of seeing us wallow in the depths of the leagues - especially when we pay higher prices than anyone else except 5 prem clubs
or wages were bad.
...............
surely that is its own point.
We can not compete with those clubs who receive parachute payments. We can not compete with Leicester.
If KWB wants promotion he has to invest big time.
Anyone go to the evening with Warnock last night saw a post on another site from someone who was there that he said he had told bates and harvey who he wanted and what it would cost and didnt know if they could get the money together but would try, he said if i get what i want i will be here next season if not i wont.
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posted on 23/3/12
LIW we need at least 9 players to build a promotion aiming squad do you think Bates is gonna back him?
I dont
posted on 23/3/12
How many did grayson bring in ???
posted on 23/3/12
LIW
Surely you don't believe Bates when he says that SG had a warchest of cash to spend as he pleased., but he chose to only spend it on loans.
I expect much of the same treatment for Warnock.
I hope I am wrong
posted on 23/3/12
LIW
Surely you don't believe Bates when he says that SG had a warchest of cash to spend as he pleased., but he chose to only spend it on loans.
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Yes I totally believe that, its how grayson works.
posted on 23/3/12
Rubbish.
Stevie wonder could see what bates is up to.
posted on 23/3/12
Utter rubbish
He gets a pot and he can do what he wants with it, is the pot big enough, no.
Bates said this what happens, grayson said that what happens.
posted on 23/3/12
I'm not denying that.
How can anyone bring in quality signings that aren't freebies or loans when the pot isn't even big enough to pis s in
posted on 23/3/12
Spend less on loans and dont waste it on pugh
posted on 23/3/12
Well we shall see what happens.
posted on 23/3/12
LIW
you know that the 9.5 million pot isnt enough to sign the players we need!
posted on 23/3/12
Love warnocks "back me or sack me" attitude
He already has his eye on 3/4 players and you can guarantee they are going to be proper players
posted on 23/3/12
If we spend less on loans it makes no difference...
The key point is that Harvey and Bates have a rigid and immovable wage structure in place and any player who comes in whether he be signed on a free or a 3million transfer fee, must agree a wage within this wage structure...
Grayson couldn't sign anyone above a certain wage, hence why we signed so much mediocre rubbish.
Bates can say all he likes about the pot. but the fact is Harvey is insistent on this salary cap and does not want anyone earning a competitive championship salary i.. 15k + a week, because he knows the wages will spiral from there!
Warnock will have to fight like never before this summer with the board, just to get those 4 players, who i'm guessing will all want a competitive wage... something that we haven't been offering for the last 5 years.
posted on 23/3/12
Collin
The average wage in the Champ are 4K
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2055140/Premier-League-wages-FIVE-times-Championship.html
So why the hell you saying 15k is a competitive salary.
IS IT F U C K its nearly FOUR TIMES THE AVERAGE.
Yes I agree the pot needs to be bigger, but really people need to research better and take the blinkers off.
And the club doesnt have salary cap
posted on 23/3/12
how long before LIW has the tag LIW WARNOCK out before Xmas?
posted on 23/3/12
Am not has sad to do something like that
posted on 23/3/12
LIW that's true about the 4K figures, but they were back in 2009-10 season.
If you take into account teams like Leicester and QPR last season, who didn't even have parachute payments, yet were able to offer crazy wages, it distorts the average up.
Yes we are more competitive than most teams in this division of definitely! But we're not just aiming for a comfy existence in midtable like many teams in this division, out fans would obviously never accept that.
To be a promotion contender you need a Lambert miracle or you need to start paying top 5 level wages.
But we cannot compete with parachute payment clubs, or sugar daddy chairman clubs for wages, and Bates has expressed this point time and time again...
When it comes to signing real quality that any of the promotion chasers are interested in, we always lose out.
Hope I'm wrong this time though, and Warnock gets to sign those 4 quality players this summer
posted on 23/3/12
Yes we are more competitive than most teams in this division of definitely! But we're not just aiming for a comfy existence in midtable like many teams in this division, out fans would obviously never accept that.
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Compeletely agree mate
And when your paying the ticket prices we are, you expect more to be spent
posted on 23/3/12
Has Warnock joined Leeds United SUPPORTERS Trust, he seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet.
It's now time for the supporters to put the board under as much pressure as we can to make sure or manager get's the required backing he needs.
We are all LU supporters, backing LU doesn't mean you can't question the way it's being run.
http://lufctrust.squarespace.com/
ONE VOICE YOUR VOICE
posted on 23/3/12
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posted on 23/3/12
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posted on 23/3/12
LIW. Sorry don't believe you would tolerate KB in any way shape or form
posted on 23/3/12
What Bates calls a war chest I call a tin cup.
SG didn’t get sheit to spend on players and was forced to look for players in the trashcan and in the local pub. And there is not much fecking gold in there.
And I suspect the same for Warnock.
posted on 23/3/12
Look, theres 2 ways of thinking about the war chest:
1) Either Bates got sick and tired of Graysons policy of freebies and loans, only to see them picking up wages and either being played out of position, or sat on the bench. Loan players are supposed to be better than the players we already had, and that hardly worked did it.
2) Grayson couldn't attract decent players because they either didn't like the way he managed/coached, or wages were bad.
Over the last few seasons we've all seen players opt to go elsewhere, when its been well known we've been after them. Billy Sharp, Simon Cox, Jason Puncheon, Ricky Lambert ......... All said they were chuffed about the interest, but decided against coming.
None of us know what goes on behind closed doors, and people like me suspect Bates is a twot and untrustworthy. As LIW says, if Bates wants to get back in the good books with all of us, he needs to show some ambition in the market. People like me would then stop banging on about him, because at the end of the day I don't give a sh*te about Bates, only the club, and I'm sick of seeing us wallow in the depths of the leagues - especially when we pay higher prices than anyone else except 5 prem clubs
posted on 23/3/12
or wages were bad.
...............
surely that is its own point.
We can not compete with those clubs who receive parachute payments. We can not compete with Leicester.
If KWB wants promotion he has to invest big time.
posted on 23/3/12
Anyone go to the evening with Warnock last night saw a post on another site from someone who was there that he said he had told bates and harvey who he wanted and what it would cost and didnt know if they could get the money together but would try, he said if i get what i want i will be here next season if not i wont.
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