lol@reposting this article.
I agree with some of your points. RVP would get into our first team. Wilsher and Song, might make a claim.
Szcesny is less of a player than De Gea, Koscielny (whom i like) is not better than any of our current central defence options. And Arteta might make the bench
The Sagna of a year ago maybe but I like Rafael better, he has improved a lot.
Szczesny is a good young keeper but so is de Gea.
Koscielny (and Vermalen) are over-rated by Arsenal fans, both decent defenders but not better than what we have.
Song is ok and Arteta wouldnt work in our two man midfield. Wilshere might be ok but lets see how he is when he gets back to fitness.
Some of the player comparisons on the earlier thread were laughable.
Would you consider Jones to be a CB option? I'd say Kos is a far more polished player than him
I forgot Sagna, he is just barely better than Rafa atm but Rafa is young.
Personally, i think Song is overrated by many. He is quite a marvellous box-to-box player, a rarity in the modern game. And he has often done well against us, had Rooney in his pocket a few times when we played them - though we often won.
Ah I see, pick our "weak link".
Jones has had a decent season considering hes been played all over the pitch.
Would I have Koscielny over our other CBs?
No.
"it occured to me that Dubbed the New Wenger is a massive plank."
Rafael is good and maybe a better long term option than Sagna but the guy is so solid at the moment
"I was reading through some of the comments on the big United vs. Arsenal thread and it occured to me that Dubbed the New Wenger is a massive plank."
Bit harsh, no?
"I'd like to ask United fans not to tar us gooners all with the same brush as the majority I know accept that United are a far superior side. Partly in terms of the quality of your players (although I think there is less than 15 points difference between the two sides), and partly because of Fergie and his various abilities which for all his genius Wenger can't seem to match."
You post this, and label me a 'plank'.
Quality wise Man U just aren't good. Simple.
It's down to Fergie.
Obviously an attention seeker.
Sorry, i meant Song is underrated*. I rate him higly
Szcsesny is the 2nd best keeper in the league behind Hart.
A fit Gibbs would trounce Evra.
Arteta is a great player but he is one of the best players available for Man Utd. If he went to Man Utd he would be considered the new Scholes (nothing to do with the goals today). Song on the otherhand would not, SAF wouldn't be able to put up with all his mistakes and laziness.
Sagna would obviously get in the team.
If Wilshere is as good as before he would also walk in the team.
and RVP.
That maybe true if your opinion was that Hart is the number one keeper in the league.
Hes not.
A fit Gibbs vs an Evra of two years previous?
Lets face it, both are equally likely to happen.
There is no reason why Verm and Kos can't either to be fair. Vidic wasn't that good before injury. Rio is pushing his luck, Jones is a joke, smalling is good i like smalling and Evans is underrated. I think if SAF had all the options he would have to go Kos and Verm.
D Diggler
I can understand your point but I think when you don't watch all 90 mins of almost every Arsenal game then you can't really appreciate a defender like Kos. I suppose its the same with me trying to judge Evans, Smalling, Jones etc.
Gibbs is nowhere near as good as Evra either. Absolute joke to suggest that.
Dubbed
Not harsh at all, I regret the banned words rule. You give us a bad name.
How do you know I dont watch all Arsenal games?
Ok, I dont but when I do Im not convinced about Kocielny or Vermalen. If I had to choose one it would be Vermalen, Koscielny just looks like an accident waiting to happen...
Szczesney, koscielny, sagna, wilshere and rvp would all start for utd. Verm, song, Gibbs, ox, Walcott would be pushing for starting spots. No one can disagree with this as its fact.
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I don't care. I don't represent you, or anyone else.
I just state my opinion. If you don't like it, so be it.
Gibbs is better than this seasons Evra. People have the opposite perception of Evra to Walcott. People look at Evra and remember how great he was and don't analyse him anymore because they have made their mind up, the opposite is said about Walcott. Evra has been quite bad this season, stat.
"Ok, I dont but when I do Im not convinced about Kocielny or Vermalen. If I had to choose one it would be Vermalen, Koscielny just looks like an accident waiting to happen..."
Koscielny is easily better than any of your centre backs. He's better than Vermaelen as well.
Hart, number one? Oh, dear. Gibbs over Evra? Vidic, no good? Oh well, that is why Arsenal are number one.
After Kompany, Koscielny is the best CB in the league.
"Gibbs is better than this seasons Evra. People have the opposite perception of Evra to Walcott. People look at Evra and remember how great he was and don't analyse him anymore because they have made their mind up, the opposite is said about Walcott. Evra has been quite bad this season, stat."
No matter how bad Evra's been this season. Gibbs is nowhere near his level.
Don't let a few decent games fool you. Evra didn't become a bad player overnight.
And Gibbs is not that good.
Vermaelen has made a lot more mistakes than Kos this season, and cost us more points
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posted on 8/4/12
lol@reposting this article.
I agree with some of your points. RVP would get into our first team. Wilsher and Song, might make a claim.
Szcesny is less of a player than De Gea, Koscielny (whom i like) is not better than any of our current central defence options. And Arteta might make the bench
posted on 8/4/12
The Sagna of a year ago maybe but I like Rafael better, he has improved a lot.
Szczesny is a good young keeper but so is de Gea.
Koscielny (and Vermalen) are over-rated by Arsenal fans, both decent defenders but not better than what we have.
Song is ok and Arteta wouldnt work in our two man midfield. Wilshere might be ok but lets see how he is when he gets back to fitness.
Some of the player comparisons on the earlier thread were laughable.
posted on 8/4/12
Would you consider Jones to be a CB option? I'd say Kos is a far more polished player than him
posted on 8/4/12
I forgot Sagna, he is just barely better than Rafa atm but Rafa is young.
Personally, i think Song is overrated by many. He is quite a marvellous box-to-box player, a rarity in the modern game. And he has often done well against us, had Rooney in his pocket a few times when we played them - though we often won.
posted on 8/4/12
Ah I see, pick our "weak link".
Jones has had a decent season considering hes been played all over the pitch.
Would I have Koscielny over our other CBs?
No.
posted on 8/4/12
"it occured to me that Dubbed the New Wenger is a massive plank."
posted on 8/4/12
Rafael is good and maybe a better long term option than Sagna but the guy is so solid at the moment
posted on 8/4/12
"I was reading through some of the comments on the big United vs. Arsenal thread and it occured to me that Dubbed the New Wenger is a massive plank."
Bit harsh, no?
"I'd like to ask United fans not to tar us gooners all with the same brush as the majority I know accept that United are a far superior side. Partly in terms of the quality of your players (although I think there is less than 15 points difference between the two sides), and partly because of Fergie and his various abilities which for all his genius Wenger can't seem to match."
You post this, and label me a 'plank'.
Quality wise Man U just aren't good. Simple.
It's down to Fergie.
Obviously an attention seeker.
posted on 8/4/12
Sorry, i meant Song is underrated*. I rate him higly
posted on 8/4/12
Szcsesny is the 2nd best keeper in the league behind Hart.
A fit Gibbs would trounce Evra.
Arteta is a great player but he is one of the best players available for Man Utd. If he went to Man Utd he would be considered the new Scholes (nothing to do with the goals today). Song on the otherhand would not, SAF wouldn't be able to put up with all his mistakes and laziness.
Sagna would obviously get in the team.
If Wilshere is as good as before he would also walk in the team.
and RVP.
posted on 8/4/12
That maybe true if your opinion was that Hart is the number one keeper in the league.
Hes not.
A fit Gibbs vs an Evra of two years previous?
Lets face it, both are equally likely to happen.
posted on 8/4/12
There is no reason why Verm and Kos can't either to be fair. Vidic wasn't that good before injury. Rio is pushing his luck, Jones is a joke, smalling is good i like smalling and Evans is underrated. I think if SAF had all the options he would have to go Kos and Verm.
posted on 8/4/12
D Diggler
I can understand your point but I think when you don't watch all 90 mins of almost every Arsenal game then you can't really appreciate a defender like Kos. I suppose its the same with me trying to judge Evans, Smalling, Jones etc.
posted on 8/4/12
Gibbs is nowhere near as good as Evra either. Absolute joke to suggest that.
posted on 8/4/12
Dubbed
Not harsh at all, I regret the banned words rule. You give us a bad name.
posted on 8/4/12
How do you know I dont watch all Arsenal games?
Ok, I dont but when I do Im not convinced about Kocielny or Vermalen. If I had to choose one it would be Vermalen, Koscielny just looks like an accident waiting to happen...
posted on 8/4/12
Szczesney, koscielny, sagna, wilshere and rvp would all start for utd. Verm, song, Gibbs, ox, Walcott would be pushing for starting spots. No one can disagree with this as its fact.
posted on 8/4/12
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I don't care. I don't represent you, or anyone else.
I just state my opinion. If you don't like it, so be it.
posted on 8/4/12
Delusion.
posted on 8/4/12
Gibbs is better than this seasons Evra. People have the opposite perception of Evra to Walcott. People look at Evra and remember how great he was and don't analyse him anymore because they have made their mind up, the opposite is said about Walcott. Evra has been quite bad this season, stat.
posted on 8/4/12
"Ok, I dont but when I do Im not convinced about Kocielny or Vermalen. If I had to choose one it would be Vermalen, Koscielny just looks like an accident waiting to happen..."
Koscielny is easily better than any of your centre backs. He's better than Vermaelen as well.
posted on 8/4/12
Hart, number one? Oh, dear. Gibbs over Evra? Vidic, no good? Oh well, that is why Arsenal are number one.
posted on 8/4/12
After Kompany, Koscielny is the best CB in the league.
posted on 8/4/12
"Gibbs is better than this seasons Evra. People have the opposite perception of Evra to Walcott. People look at Evra and remember how great he was and don't analyse him anymore because they have made their mind up, the opposite is said about Walcott. Evra has been quite bad this season, stat."
No matter how bad Evra's been this season. Gibbs is nowhere near his level.
Don't let a few decent games fool you. Evra didn't become a bad player overnight.
And Gibbs is not that good.
posted on 8/4/12
Vermaelen has made a lot more mistakes than Kos this season, and cost us more points
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