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That would count agst him in any position. I don't k ow what is wrong with Havertz atm, but he gives the impression that PL football is just too different for him
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comment by NPEEEE (U22521)
posted less than a minute ago
Rangnick on Havertz: "He's one of those players where I don't see any weaknesses in his game. He's the type of modern Johan Cruyff - he can score goals and he can provide assists.
"He can play as a nine or nine-and-a-half. I don't see him as a winger but in the central area of the pitch, he's extremely valuable. I have no doubt that this transfer will prove to be a success story for Chelsea and for Kai."
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He probably sees weaknesses in him now. Different Leagues present different challenges
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
Looks like a number 10 to me, best when getting into the box and most effective in between the line.
As an 8, he comes far too deep and looks a bit lost in the role.
He's a bit of passenger right now, likewise his German buddy
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted less than a minute ago
Looks like a number 10 to me, best when getting into the box and most effective in between the line.
As an 8, he comes far too deep and looks a bit lost in the role.
He's a bit of passenger right now, likewise his German buddy
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He can change that as Lampard did.
If Lampard can do it, then fail to see why Havertz, a much more technically gifted player can't.
I agree that a no 10 is probably his favourite position though.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
I think it's difficult to fit him and Werner together unless we play a 442 diamond.
Werner doesn't look capable of leading the line unless the opposition plays a high line where he can run in behind.
Try a 442 with Giroud and Werner together
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
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how you doin?👍😀
lookin forward to Luton at noon.
Rem flying over to Wembley to see us play Hatters in FA cup semi about 36 years ago😲
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comment by T.J (U15973)
posted about a minute ago
Try a 442 with Giroud and Werner together
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Unless we suddenly find a passing and movement game not sure any formation matters.
But I fell Giroud always gives us more balance in attack. Even in his quieter games. I would pick him for most matches and I think Frank has really wasted him
Even agst high line teams Giroud is the best option because of his link up play.
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
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have we too many to choose from up front, then Frank plays them outta their best position?
its not common for Chelsea with attacking options, but we clicked until December, albeit not beating top five teams!
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 minutes ago
The problem I have with playing a front two to get the best out of Werner is that is he really worth it? Is he that good to drop one of our wingers/midfielders for?
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Weird scenario of too many attacking options😞
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Werner would be fine if he was taking his chances. Changing formation won’t make him suddenly stop missing. He has no confidence
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
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how you doin?👍😀
lookin forward to Luton at noon.
Rem flying over to Wembley to see us play Hatters in FA cup semi about 36 years ago😲
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I'm alright TBAB, just taking it easy for the next few days. Hopefully, I will be back at work Monday or early next week - just need to see if the antibiotics do the trick.
Yeah it should be a nice easy game. I would be quite excited to see some more youth players!
60, that's a long time ago - Gavin Peacock scored a brace that day!
He has 5 offside goals and has hit the woodwork 5 times, plus countless missed chances. Formation isn’t his problem
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
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have we too many to choose from up front, then Frank plays them outta their best position?
its not common for Chelsea with attacking options, but we clicked until December, albeit not beating top five teams!
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I think Mount would be better further back the pitch.
He's arguably better defensively than all of our midfielders besides Kante.
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That would count agst him in any position. I don't k ow what is wrong with Havertz atm, but he gives the impression that PL football is just too different for him
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posted on 23/1/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22521)
posted less than a minute ago
Rangnick on Havertz: "He's one of those players where I don't see any weaknesses in his game. He's the type of modern Johan Cruyff - he can score goals and he can provide assists.
"He can play as a nine or nine-and-a-half. I don't see him as a winger but in the central area of the pitch, he's extremely valuable. I have no doubt that this transfer will prove to be a success story for Chelsea and for Kai."
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He probably sees weaknesses in him now. Different Leagues present different challenges
posted on 23/1/21
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
posted on 23/1/21
Looks like a number 10 to me, best when getting into the box and most effective in between the line.
As an 8, he comes far too deep and looks a bit lost in the role.
He's a bit of passenger right now, likewise his German buddy
posted on 23/1/21
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted less than a minute ago
Looks like a number 10 to me, best when getting into the box and most effective in between the line.
As an 8, he comes far too deep and looks a bit lost in the role.
He's a bit of passenger right now, likewise his German buddy
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He can change that as Lampard did.
posted on 23/1/21
If Lampard can do it, then fail to see why Havertz, a much more technically gifted player can't.
I agree that a no 10 is probably his favourite position though.
posted on 23/1/21
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
posted on 23/1/21
I think it's difficult to fit him and Werner together unless we play a 442 diamond.
Werner doesn't look capable of leading the line unless the opposition plays a high line where he can run in behind.
posted on 23/1/21
Try a 442 with Giroud and Werner together
posted on 23/1/21
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
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how you doin?👍😀
lookin forward to Luton at noon.
Rem flying over to Wembley to see us play Hatters in FA cup semi about 36 years ago😲
posted on 23/1/21
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posted on 23/1/21
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted about a minute ago
Try a 442 with Giroud and Werner together
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Unless we suddenly find a passing and movement game not sure any formation matters.
But I fell Giroud always gives us more balance in attack. Even in his quieter games. I would pick him for most matches and I think Frank has really wasted him
posted on 23/1/21
Even agst high line teams Giroud is the best option because of his link up play.
posted on 23/1/21
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
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Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
have we too many to choose from up front, then Frank plays them outta their best position?
its not common for Chelsea with attacking options, but we clicked until December, albeit not beating top five teams!
posted on 23/1/21
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 minutes ago
The problem I have with playing a front two to get the best out of Werner is that is he really worth it? Is he that good to drop one of our wingers/midfielders for?
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Weird scenario of too many attacking options😞
posted on 23/1/21
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posted on 23/1/21
Werner would be fine if he was taking his chances. Changing formation won’t make him suddenly stop missing. He has no confidence
posted on 23/1/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
how you doin?👍😀
lookin forward to Luton at noon.
Rem flying over to Wembley to see us play Hatters in FA cup semi about 36 years ago😲
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I'm alright TBAB, just taking it easy for the next few days. Hopefully, I will be back at work Monday or early next week - just need to see if the antibiotics do the trick.
Yeah it should be a nice easy game. I would be quite excited to see some more youth players!
60, that's a long time ago - Gavin Peacock scored a brace that day!
posted on 23/1/21
He has 5 offside goals and has hit the woodwork 5 times, plus countless missed chances. Formation isn’t his problem
posted on 23/1/21
*36
posted on 23/1/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
As things stand, I can't actually believe I am saying this, but we might as well go back to 4 2 3 1 and just try and outscored teams. We are conceding all the time in 4 3 3 anyhow.
At least 4 2 3 1 might ressurect Havertz and Werner.
We have nothing to lose. We ain't gettiing getting relegated and chances of top 4 are wafer thin... So just go for it
Try it again agst Luton.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could do the 4-2-3-1 and use Mount in the double pivot. Which to me is his best position.
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have we too many to choose from up front, then Frank plays them outta their best position?
its not common for Chelsea with attacking options, but we clicked until December, albeit not beating top five teams!
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I think Mount would be better further back the pitch.
He's arguably better defensively than all of our midfielders besides Kante.
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