Kiko lives off hype of one goal, he was shocking on loan in Italy and couldn't even make the bench at QPR.

How people view him as future Utd first team player amazes me it really does.

If he hadn't scored "that goal" people would want rid of him long ago. He's slow, lazy and not even a good finisher.

Needs to move or he will waste whatever career he has.

Hope you are wumming.
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kiko and chico would be the bluntest attack man utd ever paraded.

I think he's done a lot more to be commended than 'that goal' although I admit, a lot of people may have a very different opinion of him had it not been for it.

But Fergie has jumped to his defense time and again, been quick to praise a good performance, surely he sees something very promising in him?

I think its an interesting one, for me I'll give him perhaps two more seasons and if, by then, he's not making an appearance at least every other game and a good 10 starts, it'll probably be time to part ways.

purewater,

I said they're the best finishers? I also added that Kiko + Hernandez can't create goals like Roo and Welbeck but Kagawa sitting behind them may alleviate the need for them to.

Fergie has said that Kiko is the best finisher at the club before, Hernandez speaks for himself in that department.

I can't get into this about Macheda again, if anyone thinks he's good then fine.

But I think he lives off hype of one goal, he's done NOTHING now for 3 years since.

6 goals in 55 career appearances. Don't quite know where you got a good finisher from.
I see nothing at all to even believe that he could make it in a top of the table prem team nevermind at United. In my opinion in a couple of years time he'll be on the bench for a half decent Italian team.
We need a striker in this window.

Macheda needs to move on

I actually do think kiko IS a good finisher but he is so slow and has a bad first touch. This limits his opportunities to show his finishing abilities.

Okay guys, let's not turn this into a Macheda thread, I was simply stating the possibilities if a striker is not signed.

If I believed we would sign a new ST, Kiko wouldn't be a talking point at all but I really don't think we will.

It couldn't be another Hernandez could it? Surely if we're in desperate need of another striker the fans would cry out for someone proven, not below 24 etc. And who could you see us going for in that category that we wouldn't have to pay 15-20mil for, bearing in mind he'll likely be 4th choice.

Fair point ^

wumzard aka roo-hern.
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when did fergie make that statement. Please provide a link. Even if he did he is a utd player was he gonna say- hurl abuses at him. Even Gibson at about november was blabbing how the coaches told him he was doing ok. January he was sold. I expect same for kiko soon.

And who could you see us going for in that category that we wouldn't have to pay 15-20mil for, bearing in mind he'll likely be 4th choice.
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Defoe? I cannot think of anyone else. I'm sure our scouts are onto it.

Macheda's team play is very weak and he just flatters to deceive without offering much.

Without significant improvement he has no future at United.

purewater,

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6285923,00.html

As you requested.

I understand what you're saying, he's never going to slate a player, but I think a lot us can see he is particularly fond of Kiko, and a statement like that is a bit more than required for a confidence boost.

Kissing Cameras,

Defoe had I think two starts at Tottenham, not exactly promising of a 29 year old (might be wrong on the age), i think if we were desperately in need of a striker, though, we'd find a very good one in that category, I just can't see it, personally, SAF is fond of his strikers though!

AlwaysUnited,

I agree he needs a huge improvement, but the lad's 21 I think now so he has time on his side.

He is a terrible player. Was so excited after his Villa goal. I really thought he was going to make it at United. But he seems to think he has already made it. He is lazy and he link up play is on her with Hernandez's.

Ozil makes a good point, one that I agree with bar the link up play (not the best but Hernandez is particularly poor in that area).

You'd think that with players like AV and Park, Rio etc. at the club that they'd instill into out players the need to train, train, train.

I have no problem with his arrogance, arrogance can be a good quality sometimes, look at C. Ronaldo, but only if it comes hand in hand with a sense of humility.

bit of talk a few weeks back about an 18 year old from universidad de chile called angelo henriquez who according to tim vickery(bbc SA football expert) could be the next big thing, who we apparantly have first option on until 2014 for £4 million.

I think those talking about another forward dont understand where Kagawa plays. Why would we need another forward player to replace Berbatov when we've just bought a 10 to add to Rooney who also plays that role, and we have Hernandez and welbeck as lead forwards. That's four already assuming Macheda and Berbatov go. We also have young Keane on the books even if injured now.

Seriously yet another forward player would be mental given the needs we have in cm and at full back in the squad.

VCD, totally agree mate and said it for some time now. He looks tame when he plays, not awful just nothing particularly good. I can imagine him going for some stint in Russia or somewhere random before settling at a Wigan level team in Italy.

Really don't rate him and never expect him to score. At least with Chicha, Rooney and Wellbeck, part of you thinks, he'll likely bag one.

'That goal' was amazing, don't get me wrong and it was just the craziest moment to score in that way etc but he is still eating off it and it's past being old now...

I think the people slating Macheda on here are a bit harsh – the guy was loaned out to get first team football and improve on those areas that need work like his touch and link up play. To me I see him as a sort of old fashioned english centre forward – he will never have pace but I think as he gets older he will get bigger and stronger and end up as a sort of shearer/van nistelrooy type player who will back into defenders and hold the ball up. People forget he’s only 20 if anything being at united as probably hindered him – if he had come through the ranks at another club he would probably being playing first team football and everyone on here would be saying how we should sign this kid. Welbeck only made his breakthrough at this age so I don’t see why people are being so impatient