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at silverstone horner did nothing that mclaren ( monaco 07 and turkey 2010) have not done allready in stopping there drivers from racing for fear of both drivers taking each other out in the latter stages of a race ,
, as there is now no ban on team orders , from a teams point of view it is the sensible thing to do to prevent the loss of a massive points haul ,
as for horner not wanting hamilton at red bull , hamilton has let himself down badly this year with some of his naive driving on the track and his childish comments off the track ,
with regard to hamiltons antics on and off the track this year why would horner want hamilton at red bull anyway when he allready has a quicker driver than lewis in vettel and there is no proof that hamilton is any better than webber anyway --
Martial Artist:
There is something separating Webber and Hamilton, its called a World Championship. Hamilton had arguably the best car in 2008 to win it, Webber had arguably the best car last year but failed. Where is your proof that Vettel is actually faster than Hamilton? or are you going to reveal yourself to be a fairweather fan who think's Vettel is fastest due to the fastest car in the sport?
Also, though Monaco 2007 is correct, at Turkey 2010, there were no team orders imposed to "hold station", they told Hamilton to save fuel which in fact brought Button back into the race with him.
Please refer to your facts with back up and maybe by researching beyond the scratch on the surface before making remarks such as that? Thanks.
greg
what has a world championship got to do with anything when separating the abilities of two drivers , it is nothing more than a statistic when comparing the abilties of different drivers ,
as for mclaren at turkey last year , of course there was no message to hold station because team orders were banned so mclaren were hardly likely to impose team orders in such a blatent fashion -
as you agree they did it in 2007 so are more than capable of doing it again if it suits there purpose ,
as for hamilton , hamilton has had many chances in the fastest car since 2007 and has failed to dominate as vettel has done this year hence it is my belief that vettel with his speed and tactical intelligence and tyre preservation abilities has more in his locker than lewis -
just my opinion -- nothing more ,
as i said , why would horner want hamilton anyway when hamilton has shown himself to have been a liability this year with his naive driving errors and childish immature comments ---
You are entitled to your opinion martial artist but we are also entitiled to not take your opinion seriously.
Alonso and Hamilton are the best drivers on the grid. Button is also better than the lapper (Vettel). Once Vettel can't disappear into the distance, he doesn't win races.
Vettel cannot overtake and as a racing driver, there comes a time when you have to. Vettel said; "hopefully we do not have to overtake"
Says it all really, a world champion who can't overtake. Unbelievable!
Webber and Vettel are on the same level, average drivers in a superior car. Webber has shown that he is more than a match for Vettel and lost the title last year due to a bungled pit stop. When the car advantage goes, Vettel wil pale into obscurity, just like Barichello.
Hamilton Hasn't done the dumb things that Vettel and Webber did last year! Vettel should have been thrown out of the championship for T boning Button.
T boning Button. Ramming Webber, weaving off the line, trying to ram Alonso and Hamilton into walls, trying to get the korea race stopped because his car had issues, etc.
No one talks about his antics but if Hamilton did the same, he would be called all sorts.
Vettel is a time triallist, not a racer and his championships are devalued as far as I'm concerned.
If Vettel he'd raced forty years ago in the fashion he did last year several people would have been dead, including him.
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Like he would want two hungry guys in the Red Bulls, when Mark Webber is the fall guy to allow Seb to continue, thats why he dismissed the 'meeting' not to upset his Number 1 Driver....Seb hasnt got any challenge and when he does, the team snuff it out.
Foxes...I think you're absolutely correct!
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posted on 17/7/11
orig kop
at silverstone horner did nothing that mclaren ( monaco 07 and turkey 2010) have not done allready in stopping there drivers from racing for fear of both drivers taking each other out in the latter stages of a race ,
, as there is now no ban on team orders , from a teams point of view it is the sensible thing to do to prevent the loss of a massive points haul ,
as for horner not wanting hamilton at red bull , hamilton has let himself down badly this year with some of his naive driving on the track and his childish comments off the track ,
with regard to hamiltons antics on and off the track this year why would horner want hamilton at red bull anyway when he allready has a quicker driver than lewis in vettel and there is no proof that hamilton is any better than webber anyway --
posted on 17/7/11
Martial Artist:
There is something separating Webber and Hamilton, its called a World Championship. Hamilton had arguably the best car in 2008 to win it, Webber had arguably the best car last year but failed. Where is your proof that Vettel is actually faster than Hamilton? or are you going to reveal yourself to be a fairweather fan who think's Vettel is fastest due to the fastest car in the sport?
Also, though Monaco 2007 is correct, at Turkey 2010, there were no team orders imposed to "hold station", they told Hamilton to save fuel which in fact brought Button back into the race with him.
Please refer to your facts with back up and maybe by researching beyond the scratch on the surface before making remarks such as that? Thanks.
posted on 17/7/11
greg
what has a world championship got to do with anything when separating the abilities of two drivers , it is nothing more than a statistic when comparing the abilties of different drivers ,
as for mclaren at turkey last year , of course there was no message to hold station because team orders were banned so mclaren were hardly likely to impose team orders in such a blatent fashion -
as you agree they did it in 2007 so are more than capable of doing it again if it suits there purpose ,
as for hamilton , hamilton has had many chances in the fastest car since 2007 and has failed to dominate as vettel has done this year hence it is my belief that vettel with his speed and tactical intelligence and tyre preservation abilities has more in his locker than lewis -
just my opinion -- nothing more ,
as i said , why would horner want hamilton anyway when hamilton has shown himself to have been a liability this year with his naive driving errors and childish immature comments ---
posted on 18/7/11
You are entitled to your opinion martial artist but we are also entitiled to not take your opinion seriously.
Alonso and Hamilton are the best drivers on the grid. Button is also better than the lapper (Vettel). Once Vettel can't disappear into the distance, he doesn't win races.
Vettel cannot overtake and as a racing driver, there comes a time when you have to. Vettel said; "hopefully we do not have to overtake"
Says it all really, a world champion who can't overtake. Unbelievable!
Webber and Vettel are on the same level, average drivers in a superior car. Webber has shown that he is more than a match for Vettel and lost the title last year due to a bungled pit stop. When the car advantage goes, Vettel wil pale into obscurity, just like Barichello.
posted on 18/7/11
Hamilton Hasn't done the dumb things that Vettel and Webber did last year! Vettel should have been thrown out of the championship for T boning Button.
posted on 18/7/11
T boning Button. Ramming Webber, weaving off the line, trying to ram Alonso and Hamilton into walls, trying to get the korea race stopped because his car had issues, etc.
No one talks about his antics but if Hamilton did the same, he would be called all sorts.
Vettel is a time triallist, not a racer and his championships are devalued as far as I'm concerned.
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If Vettel he'd raced forty years ago in the fashion he did last year several people would have been dead, including him.
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Like he would want two hungry guys in the Red Bulls, when Mark Webber is the fall guy to allow Seb to continue, thats why he dismissed the 'meeting' not to upset his Number 1 Driver....Seb hasnt got any challenge and when he does, the team snuff it out.
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Foxes...I think you're absolutely correct!
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