I'm not gonna read that unless you break it down into paragraphs.

It's the depression talking. I could use the correct rules of grammar and punctuation but i thought it was the feeling that counts!

Don't care about your spelling and grammar. Just break it down into paragraphs.

. Back to school

I'm not gonna read that unless you break it down into paragraphs.
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Spoon feeders views are trivial.

Entirely correct

Wenger has been insulting the intelligence of the fans for some time now. He literally speaks more nonsense than anyone else in football including AVB

Wenger is/was the most revolutionary manager we've had in this country since the start of the PL era. Whether you think he's lost it now or not, and believe me he's starting to push me, he has credentials.

must admit, this is the worse side you've had since the mid 80's. Arsenal had no heart today, and I can't remember the last time your lot didn't have a shot on goal in 90 minutes. But your bright point is your away fans, they tried in the 2nd half to pick up the team (really quite in the 1st half) and fair play to them as they as seeing a great manager go totally delusional....the fact he said arsenal had the best chances that for me says it all! But you have some cracking players, I think it's needs a fresh approach from a new manager

I see us as a top 8 side! We can be beaten by anyone - the days of the invincibles has just disappeared over the horizon. I have watched some of the ESPN great premier league matches and it feels so desperate to think that not since Wiltord scored that goal or the fa cup win against UTD during Beckham's final year that we have done well against them? How far have we fallen after all the promises of the great riches and opportunities when we moved to the Emirates?

Look I am as pessimistic as anybody else and have been trying to preach to some people on here that we are not as good as they think but a top 8 side? Give me a break. We will finish 4th this season and we will do it comfortably IMO.

My issue is that a lot of fans seem to be satisfied with 4th place when there are all the foundations at the club to achieve so much more.

"I see us as a top 8 side!"
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Despite the fact we've finished in the top 4 for the last 15 years or so?

Interesting stuff.

How can Gunners be paying the highest prices in World Football?

How can they be so far behind the other top clubs in terms of commercial incomes when they have been at the Emirates since what 2005 and playing CL football for so many years? Surely sponsors would be queuing up if they genuinely believed the club was moving forward

Basically years after the stadium move they still behind the times. The additional money generated by the stadium is merely making up the difference others are gaining in commercial deals....and it's the fans who are suffering by paying for it!

The club then tries to arrogantly claim it has a business model all clubs should try to copy and aren't we the best run football club and all this rubbish. The idiots are insulting the intelligence of the fans

On a steady downward slide. It is about the way that Fergie and other managers get their teams to play in their image.What is Wenger's 'image' for the team? How do you square that by playing someone like Ramsey on the right today? Just how many times have you watched Arsenal play and seen them under the cosh and thought 'Wenger. Do something because they are going to score'. They score and THEN Wenger tries to change it? Just how many times. I have never managed a team but i just find that Wenger does not change a game or look at the opposition. He is myopic.

Tell me about a 'business model' whereby players of the quality of Edu, Flamini, Nasri and now Theo can leave on a free? What kind of organisation is that that continues to not tie in players and makes the same mistakes again and again and again? I am just asking for answers. I love and want Arsenal to be what we were.

Nasri never left on a free

You're right however we continue to lose players rather than attract top players. The move to the Emirates was based on us being a big player in the European market and to increase our spending power. Since we have moved to the Emirates (and now it is at least 5 years), where is the ability to attract the top players?

The OP has a point.

Wenger earns a reported £140k a week

Why do the club insist on continually mess the top players about with their contracts yet pay someone that has failed to deliver for 7 years and counting a amazing amount of money?

Is it really economic and good business sense to continually lose your best players for the sake of a million quid here and there on the wages then going out and spending tens of millions trying to replace them?

How any manager on wages like Wenger's can talk about financial prudence and stability whilst every top players goes and he pockets £140k a week is genuinely massively insulting to the fans

Wenger has succeeded in bringing money to the board and misery to the fans. What makes him content is that teams competing with us for the CL spot are not sitting up and do not put him under any pressure.So he gets away with most bad decisions he makes. I still wonder why people still say In .Wenger We Trust".He is not doing anything to earn that trust. I think he has lost it and we need new ideas.

Punjabigooner

Punjabgooner, it's all about the money in most respects in today's Premier league. There is a direct correlation between how the Premier league has become a mega money business over the past years and the failure of Arsenal to deliver anything especially when they took on the project of building the Emirates.