URM
"Wasn;t proved, doesn't mean it was a pack of lies"
Their evidence was found to be unreliable and unsubstantiated, much like Ramires' evidence in the Clattenberg case. I didn't see Fergie making comments on how the Chelsea groundsman could have lost his job, and had his reputation sullied in the national press.
You don't think he's a hypocrite on this?
comment by thelimpliberal (U4540) posted 2 minutes ago
It's the Charity Shield of international football, I doubt Fergie is going to lose any sleep over it. It's just the usual stuff with him, Rafa has put himself in a position where he's a rival (Chelsea are within 3 points of Man U after all) so he gets the treatment.
I can't remember who it was who said it but they made the point that if Fergies being offensive to you then in a way it's a compliment because it means your team's a threat, if he's being gracious then he doesn't consider you a threat so it's not necessarily a good position (hence why the vitriol with Wenger has been toned down these days). The exception to this of course is where Liverpool are concerned, all bets are off there regardless of the gap between them and Man U.
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Sense at last
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look, another dipper who has jumped on the "we must save chelsea and rafa" bangwagon
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 1 minute ago
URM
"Wasn;t proved, doesn't mean it was a pack of lies"
Their evidence was found to be unreliable and unsubstantiated, much like Ramires' evidence in the Clattenberg case. I didn't see Fergie making comments on how the Chelsea groundsman could have lost his job, and had his reputation sullied in the national press.
You don't think he's a hypocrite on this?
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Possibly yes
What about Rafa too? You don't think he's a hypocrite too then?
Shankly is the real legend, Paisley continued his work but Shankly got them in the position to challenge. SAF did both.
URM
"What about Rafa too? You don't think he's a hypocrite too then?"
How so?
As if Duncan Edwards would ever have used a term such as "dipper"!
I don't even think this needs to be asked OP. It's pretty much cleared up in his whine about it.
URM
"What about Rafa too? You don't think he's a hypocrite too then?"
How so?
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‘Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players, every manager wants to coach a such a big team,’ said the Spaniard. ‘But I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what. For me there is only club in England, and that’s Liverpool
Rafa Benitez
As if Duncan Edwards would ever have used a term such as "dipper"!
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probably not, but that's obvioulsy not my name
im taking it you werent christened Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th
Getting back to Fergie's comments re: the WCC.
He's gone off about Rafa being lucky completely unprovoked. Rafa hasn't mentioned Fergie, to my knowledge. From what I can gather Fergie's been asked how he feels about Rafa getting the Chelsea job, and he's gone off on one. Something's riled him. Dies anyone know what?
URM
In that instance he is. But I don't see him acting the paragon of virtue either.
SAF is pretty accurate in what he says, the hardest part about winning the CWC is getting into it. Rafa will now be at a second job where he started the job already entered into the CWC with some easy teams to beat to win it.
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 1 minute ago
Getting back to Fergie's comments re: the WCC.
He's gone off about Rafa being lucky completely unprovoked. Rafa hasn't mentioned Fergie, to my knowledge. From what I can gather Fergie's been asked how he feels about Rafa getting the Chelsea job, and he's gone off on one. Something's riled him. Dies anyone know what?
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They don't like each other and probably have little respect for each other too
Last time Rafa started the sheite
This time Fergie has
This really shouldn't be that surprising. You don't think Rafa's gonna be popping at Fergie during theseason too? Will that be ok though? Of course it will
Now, is Rafa a hypocrite?
This stuff about the Chelsea groundsman, meaning SAF is a hypocrite.
Just how naive are you?
Do you really expect Managers to criticise their staff in public?
Do you personally complain as much when your own team's player dives than you do when an opposition player does it?
Well - we're all hypocrites then.
The truth is, you have no idea what Ferguson thinks about the groundsman case, and you have no idea what was said in private.
The idea that he's criticised Chelsea - when asked about it in a press conference, but he didn't come out and make a statement criticising Phelan etc. at the time makes him some sort of hypocrite is nonsensical.
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 2 minutes ago
URM
In that instance he is. But
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Says it all
Red
Rafa and Fergie will be locking horns alot this season no doubt
You have the opportunity to get on with things at Liverpool and watch the mud slinging from afar
Just enjoy it, I know I'm gonna
Rafa and Fergie going at it again? LMAO yes please
URM
"Now, is Rafa a hypocrite?"
I answered that already. I said In that instance he is. But I don't see him acting the paragon of virtue either.
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 1 minute ago
URM
"Now, is Rafa a hypocrite?"
I answered that already. I said In that instance he is. But I don't see him acting the paragon of virtue either.
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Oh come on
This is Rafa we are talking about, you know, the man that spends more reciting his CV to anyone who will listen
duncan edwards and united red what a couple of bitters you are.
From; Bithering idiot and Dipper
comment by duncanedwards-legend (U11713)
posted 10 minutes ago
As if Duncan Edwards would ever have used a term such as "dipper"!
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probably not, but that's obvioulsy not my name
im taking it you werent christened Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th
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You've missed the point... so completely.
You hold up Duncan Edwards name as a memorial and refer to him as a legend, but then use terms such as "dipper" and probably others...
Doesn't exactly do him any justice associating his name with those comments.
If you were to have a username "trash talking man utd fan" it wouldn't matter at all what you said.
This is Rafa we are talking about, you know, the man that spends more reciting his CV to anyone who will listen
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The only one mentioning Rafas cv today was Fergie!
Probably irked about Rafa saying 5 trophies... Who knows if Rafa was on about "5 times" or referring to Fergie failing to win any of the 5 he was up for last season.
comment by (U14242) posted 2 minutes ago
duncan edwards and united red what a couple of bitters you are.
From; Bithering idiot and Dipper
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Run along
The grown ups are talking
You hold up Duncan Edwards name as a memorial and refer to him as a legend, but then use terms such as "dipper" and probably others...
Doesn't exactly do him any justice associating his name with those comments.
If you were to have a username "trash talking man utd fan" it wouldn't matter at all what you said.
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its a user name mate, jeez, get a grip
If you were to have a username "trash talking man utd fan" it wouldn't matter at all what you said.
............................
His username is basically Duncan Edwards is a legend. Not I am Duncan Edwards.
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posted on 23/11/12
URM
"Wasn;t proved, doesn't mean it was a pack of lies"
Their evidence was found to be unreliable and unsubstantiated, much like Ramires' evidence in the Clattenberg case. I didn't see Fergie making comments on how the Chelsea groundsman could have lost his job, and had his reputation sullied in the national press.
You don't think he's a hypocrite on this?
posted on 23/11/12
comment by thelimpliberal (U4540) posted 2 minutes ago
It's the Charity Shield of international football, I doubt Fergie is going to lose any sleep over it. It's just the usual stuff with him, Rafa has put himself in a position where he's a rival (Chelsea are within 3 points of Man U after all) so he gets the treatment.
I can't remember who it was who said it but they made the point that if Fergies being offensive to you then in a way it's a compliment because it means your team's a threat, if he's being gracious then he doesn't consider you a threat so it's not necessarily a good position (hence why the vitriol with Wenger has been toned down these days). The exception to this of course is where Liverpool are concerned, all bets are off there regardless of the gap between them and Man U.
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Sense at last
posted on 23/11/12
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posted on 23/11/12
look, another dipper who has jumped on the "we must save chelsea and rafa" bangwagon
posted on 23/11/12
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 1 minute ago
URM
"Wasn;t proved, doesn't mean it was a pack of lies"
Their evidence was found to be unreliable and unsubstantiated, much like Ramires' evidence in the Clattenberg case. I didn't see Fergie making comments on how the Chelsea groundsman could have lost his job, and had his reputation sullied in the national press.
You don't think he's a hypocrite on this?
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Possibly yes
What about Rafa too? You don't think he's a hypocrite too then?
posted on 23/11/12
Shankly is the real legend, Paisley continued his work but Shankly got them in the position to challenge. SAF did both.
posted on 23/11/12
URM
"What about Rafa too? You don't think he's a hypocrite too then?"
How so?
posted on 23/11/12
As if Duncan Edwards would ever have used a term such as "dipper"!
posted on 23/11/12
I don't even think this needs to be asked OP. It's pretty much cleared up in his whine about it.
posted on 23/11/12
URM
"What about Rafa too? You don't think he's a hypocrite too then?"
How so?
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‘Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players, every manager wants to coach a such a big team,’ said the Spaniard. ‘But I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what. For me there is only club in England, and that’s Liverpool
Rafa Benitez
posted on 23/11/12
As if Duncan Edwards would ever have used a term such as "dipper"!
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probably not, but that's obvioulsy not my name
im taking it you werent christened Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th
posted on 23/11/12
Getting back to Fergie's comments re: the WCC.
He's gone off about Rafa being lucky completely unprovoked. Rafa hasn't mentioned Fergie, to my knowledge. From what I can gather Fergie's been asked how he feels about Rafa getting the Chelsea job, and he's gone off on one. Something's riled him. Dies anyone know what?
posted on 23/11/12
URM
In that instance he is. But I don't see him acting the paragon of virtue either.
posted on 23/11/12
SAF is pretty accurate in what he says, the hardest part about winning the CWC is getting into it. Rafa will now be at a second job where he started the job already entered into the CWC with some easy teams to beat to win it.
posted on 23/11/12
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 1 minute ago
Getting back to Fergie's comments re: the WCC.
He's gone off about Rafa being lucky completely unprovoked. Rafa hasn't mentioned Fergie, to my knowledge. From what I can gather Fergie's been asked how he feels about Rafa getting the Chelsea job, and he's gone off on one. Something's riled him. Dies anyone know what?
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They don't like each other and probably have little respect for each other too
Last time Rafa started the sheite
This time Fergie has
This really shouldn't be that surprising. You don't think Rafa's gonna be popping at Fergie during theseason too? Will that be ok though? Of course it will
Now, is Rafa a hypocrite?
posted on 23/11/12
This stuff about the Chelsea groundsman, meaning SAF is a hypocrite.
Just how naive are you?
Do you really expect Managers to criticise their staff in public?
Do you personally complain as much when your own team's player dives than you do when an opposition player does it?
Well - we're all hypocrites then.
The truth is, you have no idea what Ferguson thinks about the groundsman case, and you have no idea what was said in private.
The idea that he's criticised Chelsea - when asked about it in a press conference, but he didn't come out and make a statement criticising Phelan etc. at the time makes him some sort of hypocrite is nonsensical.
posted on 23/11/12
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 2 minutes ago
URM
In that instance he is. But
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Says it all
Red
Rafa and Fergie will be locking horns alot this season no doubt
You have the opportunity to get on with things at Liverpool and watch the mud slinging from afar
Just enjoy it, I know I'm gonna
Rafa and Fergie going at it again? LMAO yes please
posted on 23/11/12
URM
"Now, is Rafa a hypocrite?"
I answered that already. I said In that instance he is. But I don't see him acting the paragon of virtue either.
posted on 23/11/12
comment by red_man23 (U1669) posted 1 minute ago
URM
"Now, is Rafa a hypocrite?"
I answered that already. I said In that instance he is. But I don't see him acting the paragon of virtue either.
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Oh come on
This is Rafa we are talking about, you know, the man that spends more reciting his CV to anyone who will listen
posted on 23/11/12
duncan edwards and united red what a couple of bitters you are.
From; Bithering idiot and Dipper
posted on 23/11/12
comment by duncanedwards-legend (U11713)
posted 10 minutes ago
As if Duncan Edwards would ever have used a term such as "dipper"!
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probably not, but that's obvioulsy not my name
im taking it you werent christened Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th
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You've missed the point... so completely.
You hold up Duncan Edwards name as a memorial and refer to him as a legend, but then use terms such as "dipper" and probably others...
Doesn't exactly do him any justice associating his name with those comments.
If you were to have a username "trash talking man utd fan" it wouldn't matter at all what you said.
posted on 23/11/12
This is Rafa we are talking about, you know, the man that spends more reciting his CV to anyone who will listen
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The only one mentioning Rafas cv today was Fergie!
Probably irked about Rafa saying 5 trophies... Who knows if Rafa was on about "5 times" or referring to Fergie failing to win any of the 5 he was up for last season.
posted on 23/11/12
comment by (U14242) posted 2 minutes ago
duncan edwards and united red what a couple of bitters you are.
From; Bithering idiot and Dipper
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Run along
The grown ups are talking
posted on 23/11/12
You hold up Duncan Edwards name as a memorial and refer to him as a legend, but then use terms such as "dipper" and probably others...
Doesn't exactly do him any justice associating his name with those comments.
If you were to have a username "trash talking man utd fan" it wouldn't matter at all what you said.
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its a user name mate, jeez, get a grip
posted on 23/11/12
If you were to have a username "trash talking man utd fan" it wouldn't matter at all what you said.
............................
His username is basically Duncan Edwards is a legend. Not I am Duncan Edwards.
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