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Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
Also think about what that kind of uncertainty does to investments and our markets
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
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We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Told ya Germany will be bailing out Europe again. Thankfully we are not in it this time. I changed my mind on brexit to remain but now that we have left thank god. Corona is going to be enormous disaster on the eurozone.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-23/merkel-urges-germany-to-support-eu-stimulus-to-counter-virus-hit
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I am 100% behind Merkel here. This is what the EU should be. Bail out other countries and act as a unit.
It doesnt mean it goes all on our cost. Why do you think that the Brexit helps you is beyond me.
Britain will suffer and getting in serious trouble. They will rue the day they did the Brexit.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
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We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1253296940835618823?s=19
Adebayor really is a despicable caaant.
comment by Tu Meke - He'sGotRedHair! (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1253296940835618823?s=19
Adebayor really is a despicable caaant.
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Feel it isnt right, Tu but refuse to blame him.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
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We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
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You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
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Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
He comes from a poor country and grew up under difficult circumstancies, Tu.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 11 minutes ago
It doesnt mean it goes all on our cost. Why do you think that the Brexit helps you is beyond me.
Britain will suffer and getting in serious trouble. They will rue the day they did the Brexit.
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Because we suffered the consequences with massive immigration after the 2012 Euro crisis. At a time when we were still suffering the Bank bailouts of 2009 and austerity. Its why the 'remain' side lost the referendum in the first place.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
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We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
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Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
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It is true.
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/eu-prognose-die-60-milliarden-brexit-rechnung-fuer-london.795.de.html?dram:article_id=382407
Article says also that Britain also get money back.
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comment by Aye (U3245)
posted less than a minute ago
ok
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any corona cases in your family?
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
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Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true.
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/eu-prognose-die-60-milliarden-brexit-rechnung-fuer-london.795.de.html?dram:article_id=382407
Article says also that Britain also get money back.
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Nope. you don't understand. Britain has been a net contributor to the EU ever since its existence. So has Germany btw.
However as I explained above the UK is a part of many schemes agreed to before brexit. The contributions towards that amounts c£39Bn. Not the figures quoted in that article. Again those are contributions which actually amount to services that Britain also has right to. For example the EU PPE scheme that Hancock is in trouble for joining late because he is an idiot.
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
But those schemes amount to nothing compared to the amount that will be required to bailout Europe again. €2000 Billions. Most of that will come from Germany because Germany is one of the few success stories within the EU. Others countries just don't have the money to contribute to that scheme in the EU. This is why so many German politicians are opposed to it.
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
____
I say pay back you say contribute. So be it.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true.
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/eu-prognose-die-60-milliarden-brexit-rechnung-fuer-london.795.de.html?dram:article_id=382407
Article says also that Britain also get money back.
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Nope. you don't understand. Britain has been a net contributor to the EU ever since its existence. So has Germany btw.
However as I explained above the UK is a part of many schemes agreed to before brexit. The contributions towards that amounts c£39Bn. Not the figures quoted in that article. Again those are contributions which actually amount to services that Britain also has right to. For example the EU PPE scheme that Hancock is in trouble for joining late because he is an idiot.
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
But those schemes amount to nothing compared to the amount that will be required to bailout Europe again. €2000 Billions. Most of that will come from Germany because Germany is one of the few success stories within the EU. Others countries just don't have the money to contribute to that scheme in the EU. This is why so many German politicians are opposed to it.
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We and France always contributed most to the EU. So had Britain. The idea of the EU is not only to export goods from one country to the other. In that sense I am a big European guy who wants the EU even if it means to contribute more than any other country.
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted about a minute ago
Coefficients
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Dont think CL places will decided by coefficient.
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticUK/status/1253255038715211776
Ornstein saying we will Mari's deal permanent. Good idea?
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 13 seconds ago
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
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I say pay back you say contribute. So be it.
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Payback means we have used up those services. That is not true. Britain will benefit from spending that money because it entitles us to receive those services!
The problem for Germany is the NEW schemes. The big one. €2 Trillions to go countries like Spain/Italy and France. Germany will be bailing out Europe again. In 2012 it was UK and Germany (in the main) also some northern EU countries like Holland etc. This time its going to Germany in the main. Good luck with that.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 13 seconds ago
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
____
I say pay back you say contribute. So be it.
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Payback means we have used up those services. That is not true. Britain will benefit from spending that money because it entitles us to receive those services!
The problem for Germany is the NEW schemes. The big one. €2 Trillions to go countries like Spain/Italy and France. Germany will be bailing out Europe again. In 2012 it was UK and Germany (in the main) also some northern EU countries like Holland etc. This time its going to Germany in the main. Good luck with that.
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posted on 23/4/20
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
posted on 23/4/20
Also think about what that kind of uncertainty does to investments and our markets
posted on 23/4/20
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Told ya Germany will be bailing out Europe again. Thankfully we are not in it this time. I changed my mind on brexit to remain but now that we have left thank god. Corona is going to be enormous disaster on the eurozone.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-23/merkel-urges-germany-to-support-eu-stimulus-to-counter-virus-hit
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I am 100% behind Merkel here. This is what the EU should be. Bail out other countries and act as a unit.
It doesnt mean it goes all on our cost. Why do you think that the Brexit helps you is beyond me.
Britain will suffer and getting in serious trouble. They will rue the day they did the Brexit.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
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We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
posted on 23/4/20
https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1253296940835618823?s=19
Adebayor really is a despicable caaant.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Tu Meke - He'sGotRedHair! (U3732)
posted 5 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1253296940835618823?s=19
Adebayor really is a despicable caaant.
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Feel it isnt right, Tu but refuse to blame him.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
posted on 23/4/20
He comes from a poor country and grew up under difficult circumstancies, Tu.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 11 minutes ago
It doesnt mean it goes all on our cost. Why do you think that the Brexit helps you is beyond me.
Britain will suffer and getting in serious trouble. They will rue the day they did the Brexit.
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Because we suffered the consequences with massive immigration after the 2012 Euro crisis. At a time when we were still suffering the Bank bailouts of 2009 and austerity. Its why the 'remain' side lost the referendum in the first place.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true.
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/eu-prognose-die-60-milliarden-brexit-rechnung-fuer-london.795.de.html?dram:article_id=382407
Article says also that Britain also get money back.
posted on 23/4/20
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posted on 23/4/20
I am calm.
posted on 23/4/20
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posted on 23/4/20
comment by Aye (U3245)
posted less than a minute ago
ok
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any corona cases in your family?
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true.
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/eu-prognose-die-60-milliarden-brexit-rechnung-fuer-london.795.de.html?dram:article_id=382407
Article says also that Britain also get money back.
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Nope. you don't understand. Britain has been a net contributor to the EU ever since its existence. So has Germany btw.
However as I explained above the UK is a part of many schemes agreed to before brexit. The contributions towards that amounts c£39Bn. Not the figures quoted in that article. Again those are contributions which actually amount to services that Britain also has right to. For example the EU PPE scheme that Hancock is in trouble for joining late because he is an idiot.
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
But those schemes amount to nothing compared to the amount that will be required to bailout Europe again. €2000 Billions. Most of that will come from Germany because Germany is one of the few success stories within the EU. Others countries just don't have the money to contribute to that scheme in the EU. This is why so many German politicians are opposed to it.
posted on 23/4/20
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
____
I say pay back you say contribute. So be it.
posted on 23/4/20
Coefficients
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
Govt are sayong we have because gaslighting is part of how they stay in power
We haven't negotiated the exit and if you think a no deal Brexit on 32/12/20 is going to be beneficial compared to staying then you're mad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We brexited on 31/01/2020. We haven't agreed a trade deal. The deadline to agree that is 31/12/2020. Until then we are trading with the EU on previous terms. Thats where the uncertainty lays. In the present climate I suspect we will take the 12 month extension option already agreed in the deal by which we left the EU on 31st jan 2020.
Because we have left the EU we are not liable for the cost of the bill €2 Trillion (more than the US bailout). Most if not all of that will go to Italy/Spain/France whose economies were still suffering high unemployment from 2012 Euro crisis. Cannot imagine what the total unemployment rate will be after this when they already avg 10% youth employment before it all started.
Its quite frightening. Because we will be impacted from the fallout in the EU. Just not to the levels if we had still been part of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You left out the part in which the Brexit agreement saying that Britain have to pay back money that were given to them before.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because that is not true.
We have to contribute to the schemes that were agreed before the referendum which still have a time to run. Thats what the divorce settlement would amount to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true.
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/eu-prognose-die-60-milliarden-brexit-rechnung-fuer-london.795.de.html?dram:article_id=382407
Article says also that Britain also get money back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope. you don't understand. Britain has been a net contributor to the EU ever since its existence. So has Germany btw.
However as I explained above the UK is a part of many schemes agreed to before brexit. The contributions towards that amounts c£39Bn. Not the figures quoted in that article. Again those are contributions which actually amount to services that Britain also has right to. For example the EU PPE scheme that Hancock is in trouble for joining late because he is an idiot.
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
But those schemes amount to nothing compared to the amount that will be required to bailout Europe again. €2000 Billions. Most of that will come from Germany because Germany is one of the few success stories within the EU. Others countries just don't have the money to contribute to that scheme in the EU. This is why so many German politicians are opposed to it.
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We and France always contributed most to the EU. So had Britain. The idea of the EU is not only to export goods from one country to the other. In that sense I am a big European guy who wants the EU even if it means to contribute more than any other country.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted about a minute ago
Coefficients
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Dont think CL places will decided by coefficient.
posted on 23/4/20
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticUK/status/1253255038715211776
Ornstein saying we will Mari's deal permanent. Good idea?
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 13 seconds ago
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
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I say pay back you say contribute. So be it.
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Payback means we have used up those services. That is not true. Britain will benefit from spending that money because it entitles us to receive those services!
The problem for Germany is the NEW schemes. The big one. €2 Trillions to go countries like Spain/Italy and France. Germany will be bailing out Europe again. In 2012 it was UK and Germany (in the main) also some northern EU countries like Holland etc. This time its going to Germany in the main. Good luck with that.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 13 seconds ago
Its not something Britain has to 'payback'. Its something we still have to contribute towards until those schemes end. 'Bills have to be still paid'.
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I say pay back you say contribute. So be it.
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Payback means we have used up those services. That is not true. Britain will benefit from spending that money because it entitles us to receive those services!
The problem for Germany is the NEW schemes. The big one. €2 Trillions to go countries like Spain/Italy and France. Germany will be bailing out Europe again. In 2012 it was UK and Germany (in the main) also some northern EU countries like Holland etc. This time its going to Germany in the main. Good luck with that.
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Believe what you want.
posted on 23/4/20
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