Which have already improved on what went before.

What was before got both Wenger and Emery sacked. Do you think its fair that our expectation shouldn't be something better than both what Wenger did in his final years and Emery's poor stint at the club?

Don't forget that in his first full season Arteta had to put up with the dodgy deals that got him the likes of Mari, Cedric, Willian and Runar Runarsson and little else.
An injury mess in Partey and a young and injury prone Gabriel was all he really got.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
What was before got both Wenger and Emery sacked. Do you think its fair that our expectation shouldn't be something better than both what Wenger did in his final years and Emery's poor stint at the club?
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And he is doing better

And Arteta has been given a lot money to overcome those exact issues. However most of those deals were done with his say-so as he has said himself often enough. Incl Runar

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
What was before got both Wenger and Emery sacked. Do you think its fair that our expectation shouldn't be something better than both what Wenger did in his final years and Emery's poor stint at the club?
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And he is doing better

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I am happy to acknowledge that.

posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
Match Day.

Think the most important game in Arteta's management career. Win it and we have a real shot to getting back to the Champions League.

Is that acknowledging he is doing better or setting him up for a fall?
Lose or draw and you can say he failed his "most important game", but win then you can go with the "anything but champions league is a failure".

Who's the straw man here?

J99 got himself all twisted here... How is me saying a fact that Arteta has a better record away than Emery even controversial?

Also feels like he's misrepresented what I said a bit... A straw man argument perhaps 🤔

Lets be fair, apart from the Liverpool game, Arteta has faced the "big 6" with Wengers ageing squad, plus Emerys poor additions, plus Rauls pension boosters. And still won 2.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
Is that acknowledging he is doing better or setting him up for a fall?
Lose or draw and you can say he failed his "most important game", but win then you can go with the "anything but champions league is a failure".
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What do you mean setting up to fall?

Wenger was fired because he couldn't qualify for the Champions League anymore. Kroenke gave him time and money and he couldn't do it.

Arteta's job is to do just that. Get us back to the Champions League before the end of his contract. Nothing complicated. He doesn't need to win the Man Utd game for that. But it would help a lot if he did because of the message it would send to the rest of the league.

I explained what I meant in the subsequent sentence.

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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
Better than Emery's
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A FACT

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 seconds ago
I explained what I meant in the subsequent sentence.
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Josh Kroenke himself affirmed what Arteta has to do.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 seconds ago
I explained what I meant in the subsequent sentence.
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Josh Kroenke himself affirmed what Arteta has to do.
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I don't believe Josh has ever said Arteta will get sacked if we don't get CL this season

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 seconds ago
I explained what I meant in the subsequent sentence.
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Josh Kroenke himself affirmed what Arteta has to do.
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I don't believe Josh has ever said Arteta will get sacked if we don't get CL this season
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He underlined the importance of Champions League. Why should Arteta get a new contract if he is unable to do it?

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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
Better than Emery's
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An undeniable fact no matter how much it hurts U3245's tiny undescended bawls

comment by Xhaka Free Zone FC (U3245)
posted 3 minutes ago
So glad I posted that link
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Why do we always think backwards?

We can't change any shiiiiit that happened.

Looking forward is the right way to progress.

well said Sigmundthru

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He also spoke of stability and having the right people in position now after the mistakes of the immediate post-Wenger era.

comment by Xhaka Free Zone FC (U3245)
posted less than a minute ago
Fak u GT
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You're welcome

And also pointed his spend and the importance of the Champions League in the 'process'. What kind of process would it be if one of your main cogs can turn the wheel?