TBOK, good point too. It has surely to do with our tactical system and playing players out of position.

Don't think we have a motivation problem here.

Look at the facking united game.

vermaelen's all lovey-dovey with rvp in the tunnels (this is our captain by the way ), 5 minutes later he's setting him up for the first goal.

if he's neutral towards van persie and actually thinking about how to stop him, he's not doing what he did there, i'm sure of it.

vermaelen's all lovey-dovey with rvp in the tunnels (this is our captain by the way ), 5 minutes later he's setting him up for the first goal.
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I'm usually good at controlling my nerves but during the Bayern game, I was really tempted to run onto the pitch and kick his feckin' ass! He has just shocking during that game, no leadership whatsoever...

Arshavin, Squillaci, Fabianski, Vito

I know them. They are only substitutes. Arshavin not even that. My point was to show you that Wenger want to work with these players he had and who recently signed new contracts.

and cesc had a dig at arsene when he played at a summer tournament with spain (can't remember which, or when).

basically along the lines of "spain coaching is better because we actually analyse the opponents before going into a game".

i can't tell you how shocked i was when i saw him say that.

I mean, I've heard Arsene say, multiple times "We should only concentrate on ourselves", but what the fack, man?

basically along the lines of "spain coaching is better because we actually analyse the opponents before going into a game".

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Yeah you really get the impression that we even study our opponents. Tonight it is DFB cup Bayern München against Dortmund. There you can watch how to stop Bayern.

RVP has said similar since moving to Man U. It's very worrying actually.
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hummm.... has anyone ever seen Wenger going to another game to watch the next opponent?

"basically along the lines of "spain coaching is better because we actually analyse the opponents before going into a game"."

Pretty much everybody who has left us has said the coaching at their club is far better than at Arsenal, even Ljungberg said West Ham's coaching was better. This is a major issue that desperately needs sorting.

basically along the lines of "spain coaching is better because we actually analyse the opponents before going into a game".
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Nasri said the same thing when he moved to City all ex players say it

even Ljungberg said West Ham's coaching was better.
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Milner showing us up saying Clichy told him arsenal don't allow tackling in training.

MILNER ffs

Don't start me on Wenger!!!

I hope that the rumours of Henry and Vieira coming back to the club in some capacity are true. Would love to have Keown and even Jens back.

Batmanu, It's clearly been the same for years though. Must be the way Wenger does things. but now he does not have a team full of WC players to save him !
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I was about to say the same thing. I understand where he's coming from with him wanted to play our style. But now, we don't have any style....

I bet Wenger doesn't even know who we're playing on Saturdays, he just walks out of the tunnel and finds out at kick-off

Would love to have Keown and even Jens back.
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Jens was at Colney 2 weeks ago in his training kit!

The club needs a massive shake up in the Summer and I think it will.

The sad thing is that it will be too late, I am convinced that we will not finish top 4 this season, certainly not at the Spúds' expense.

It's a shame it has come to this.

Batmanu, It's clearly been the same for years though. Must be the way Wenger does things. but now he does not have a team full of WC players to save him !

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You could argue they have no character to give Wenger back what he deserves but it's not that. Imo we havent got individual class to put things around when we are suffering.

I don't believe that ManCity played well this season overall in and in comparison to us we are not far behind them as an example. But the table dont lie. They are on the second place.