"why do they still do it"

Because a lot of pro footballers are as "thick as two short planks" - hence the reason they also smother their bodies in ridiculous tattoos, which they will grow up to regret when the reach middle to old age.

Over paid t-ssers, the lot of them.

I remember when players just kissed and hugged each other to celebrate a goal.

I bet you had a 'Great feeling' about that one LV

Mirf

I remember the days when they just shook hands or got a pat on the back when they scored a goal - mind you, I'm going back to the days of Vic Metcalf, Eddie Boot and Jimmy Glazzard & Co, when footballers were level headed individuals, who were paid only 2 to 3 times more than what the average working man earned.

Also back to the days when you were allowed to tackle, shoulder charge and put ball and goalie (if necessary) into the back of the net, without any interference from the Refs who allowed the game to flow, and when teams only had one trainer, complete with a bucket-a- cold watter, sponge and smelling salts, to cure every injury sustained, short of a broken limb.

Seriously Mirf,
I reckon spectators would like it if the game went back to Shoulder charges & a bit more rough stuff (not dirty, niggle)
Even more so if a goal keeper could be 'challenged' for high cross' & corners etc...

It's too much like basketball now,
Folks on here keep saying we need a 'Jimmy McGill or Darren Bullock type character in mid field..
I agree, It would be far more entertaining, But players like that don't exist anymore due to the modern interpretation of the rules, & if someone did perform like that, they would be shown a just about every game they started.

What's gone wrong.
How has it come to this ?

Must be 'Health and Safety' got involved. Was watching an old final from Wembley on TV last week...Southampton v somebody, tackles, non stop action, people getting kicked and just getting straight back up again, end to end stuff, 100% value for money in terms of effort and skills....and that was late 70's...

It's ridiculous.

Referees are surely aware that they have a watch? So just stop the clock when the ball goes in the net and let people celebrate. Everyone loves a good showboat.

Had I made it as a player and scored for Town in front of the Leeds or Bradford Kop Ends then I would give it to their fans something rotten.

Football is a game packed with emotion. Not allowing players to celebrate is just pathetic. Even the Fifa video game has celebrations when you score a goal, so it's a bit hypocritical that the same body that endorses this game, then sees fit to warrant yellow cards for the same thing

Football is beyond f-cking stupid sometimes.

Now Darn, is there a match thread this week or what???

There is Champers !

Just like I said.....(if you read it )
Thursday Mid day (GMT)

Oh, I'm expected to read things now?!

celebrating wins might be a better option for footballers..

no point stripping off and getting booked if you ultimately lose the game..

vaughan celebrated well at forest.. 1-0 ... we then lost 6-1 ????

the wasting time issue is close to my heart.. timekeepers are required, we pay for(heavily) 45 minutes each way and its about time we got it.. it would only take 2/3 weeks of much longer games for all the f-ckwits involved to realise they were gaining nothing by ars-ing about and feigning injury..
numb nuts could still mooch off when being subbed, it would make no difference.. keepers could run from side to side for goal kicks, no difference to the length of the game..
refs still retaining the power to book players for taking too long to do something.. even those with the intelligence of a housebrick would soon get the message..
taking your shirt off??? never quite understood that one unless you have sponsorship underneath or you wish to send a silly message..

Totally concur 38. I've seen so many games where the time added on is just eaten up by more time wasting.....it's a farce.

When you consider at Arsenal you can pay over £100 for a ticket and the ball is in play for no more than an hour per game, that's just daylight robbery.

Goals SHOULD be celebrated. Players have described the feeling as 'better than s-x' (and I always celebrate that with a cigarette so it's fair enough.....) so its natural to want to release the emotion it brings, but the clock should stop, especially as the ball is technically dead.

Celebrations ARE important......Marco Tardelli in the 1982 World Cup Final....Pele fist-pumping in 1970....Roger Milla's corner flag jig......all moments that you see again and again that capture the emotion of the game we all love.

CHAMPERS..
the average football match in this country.. is

22:30 1st half..

23;45 second half..

that is ball in play..

therefore approx 46 minutes of the ball actually being played out of 90...

game the other week.. 1 serious injury alone in the 2nd half was a 10:23 stoppage..

there were 3 other stoppages for injuries and 4 substitutions..

the ref added 9 minutes on at the end?????????

i guess the refs and linos dont want to do a full shift either?

like i said, a few games with timekeepers stopping the clock everytime the ball is dead would sort them all out..
you could still tactically waste time but the bookings would still be there and you still have to "play" the full 45 minutes of each half..

While we're having a moan...How come the clock on the town scoreboard gets stuck at 90 minutes ?

Often the most crucial minutes are the 3,4 or 5 added at the end...so why not keep the flipping clock going so we all know what's left ? Is it just Town that do this...

“Everyone loves a good showboat.”

Someone’s doing it again, without having consulted me!


“Even the Fifa video game has celebrations when you score a goal…”

That’s all right then… may as well not bother going to see live games… just gawp at a screen.


“…the wasting time issue is close to my heart.. “

It’s a pity Rugby League isn’t, 38YEARS, because they have an official timekeeper. Also… what about Widnes Vikings second-row Gareth Hock being sent off, banned for one game, and fined £300 after he was found guilty of using foul and abusive language to a match official? Sounds good to me!


“Celebrations ARE important.”

What a load of monkey muffins! The words, “smoke", and “mirrors” spring to mind!

jacko..
my "stats" on actual time played in a half at town were taken against ipswich, 2nd half..

ball in play 25;45 ...

4 minutes of added time.. ball actually in play 1;35???
so from a "so called" available 51 minutes the ball was in play for 28;20....

just stopped my stopwatch function each time the ball went out etc.. tbh gave me something to do..

think there was also 3 substitutions made and 2 stops for injuries so the actual 4 minutes "injury time" was about right..

just think if you paid at alton towers and they stopped the ride every 100feet or so and it lasted only half as long as its supposed to????

I really am falling out with football...

Remember I did a 'time wsting' thread during the last World cup...& revealed figures very close to what 38 has just posted, little more than a good 20 minutes each half,
I said at the time we should only have the clock running while the ball is in actual play....
Most at the time disagreed with me claiming it would take 'till midnight' to complete a game (?)

Also,
Disagree Champers
re- A goal should be 'celebrated'...
& 'scoring is better than six'... ! Back to my original question, Shittu is going to look a right blockhead if Millwall make the final & he misses it because one of his bookings that incurs a suspension was for...taking his shirt of in the quarter final
I bet that feeling wouldn't be described as better than six..

also, re the bad language issue, RL & Union have the perfect solution as described.....so
in football terms, The One game ban & a fine of A WEEKS WAGE....so what ever a particular player is on ....that's the fine.
100,000 quid for telling the ref to 'Six & Travel' But like Mirf says, they are thick as two short planks (& some), It might take 'some time' for the penny to drop for some of them.

There are many who are thinking along the lines of 38 !
falling out with football.

What a dumb world .........?

I had to 'alter' the spelling for Better than .....that word we use for s... ex
Words used in a law court, Yet banned on 606

Town players can't last 75 minutes even when the game is stopped half the time...how the heck they going to play for 4 hours......anyway, the fans would all be bored stiff and back in the Pub if it went on that long...

I reckon they should reduce the 'playing time' to 30 mins each way, that way we don't have as long to wait until they chuck the FIFA coaching manual out the window and revert to old style football...

Diluvian,

I think you're disagreeing with me, though I can't be sure as I don't ever understand a thing you say. It's like you've been thawed out having been cryogenically frozen in 1870.

Either that or you're from Hebden Bridge.

Thank fook, someone else doesn't understand him.

Difficult for you to cope when stuff isn’t dumbed down, is it? Never mind, at least you are in the majority, and the politicians, corporate executives, and people who run the press and television love you. So at least, you’ve got friends in sly places.

I’m not from Hebden Bridge, and have absolutely no interest in yoghurt knitting.

Notice Heidi… no smiley, and no disguised expletive!

That's better, but I do prefer pictures when I read stuff.

Can you please add some for me, as I'm thick as fook and often get my in a twist!



Cheer up ya miserable bu gger , next time I won't be so lenient