tino

sounds like the usual mid season media bollox to me , logically why would ferrari even want kimi raikk back when massa had his number when the pair were teamed up before at ferrari ,
raikk has all the personality of a bag of rats so probably would not endear himself to the ferrari engineers he would be working with or with anybody else connected with ferrari for that matter ,

if ferrari are thinking of replacing massa they would probably take the long view and look at the wider picture and look at one of the younger drivers that they could mould into the ferrari way of doing things --

Tino

I think you can safely ignore anything posted by martial artist (U9033).

Not the full shilling.

He does not know anything about F1 and every comment he has posted on the subject has been proven wrong.

Can't see Ferrari wanting to risk putting two massive personalities like Raikkonen and Alonso together.

Ferrari are very much like Red Bull in that they rely heavily on the #1/#2 driver policy.

WTCBU

why dont you create another topic as you did before and tell everybody again on the forum you are leaving the forum because i keep making you cry -
----- ( enough is enough as you called it )

Eddie Jordan has his fingers on the pulse and predicted the return of Schumacher and Mercedes acquiring Hamilton's services. He's clearly in the know.

Not sure how Alonso would feel about this development as he's not fond of a competitive team mate

Sorry lads posted and búggered off

Kimi is a quality driver tho I'd like to see him back in a Ferrari.....maybe the competition could spur Alonso on? atleast they'd have a driver who looks able to take points off the RedBulls

I think Kimi is the sort of Driver that could get under Alonso's skin as a team mate. He seems so uninterested yet so fast. Alonso likes to play mind games and having a team mate that simply shrugs will wind him up the wall

Maybe Alonso will engineer a move....to where I don't know

After all the hard work Alonso put in, trying to get James in, now he has to deal with Kimi

My favourite for the second Ferrari next year would be Button.

Must be looking for a change and fits the bill on all counts:
1 Alonso will think he can handle him.
2 Ferrari will see him as a challenge and a good back-up when Alonso falters.

Despite the bull that surrounds, "the most complete driver on the grid", there are occasions when he goes off the boil.
Beaten by Massa at the end of last year when the chips were down will not have won him friends and loyalty is short in an F1 team.
Ferrari will have noticed, then this year's, "Birthday present"......

Although perhaps Ferrari will have had a few, "media days" while all the others were sitting on the beach for weeks on end and could bounce back at Spa.

Button the perfect option.(IMO)

PACIFIC OCEAN BLUE

why would ferrari want button an ageing has been that has more flaws than a scouse bin dipper , give him an absolutely perfect car that is superglued to the track and he looks half decent anything but a perfect car and he has more excuses than the before mentioned scouse bin dipper --- why the fluck would ferrari want a clown like button ?

as for " alonso beaten by massa at the end of last season "
-------- so massa beating alonso in qual in the last 2 races of last season and alonso decimating felipe in the races themselves has somehow affected alonso"s street cred at ferrari

I dunno if I want to see Kimi go back to Ferrari or not

I want to see him in the most competitive car available + as the Red Bull option is dead and Mercedes is already covered that leaves Lotus, Ferrari and the team not mentioned - McLaren.

Lotus are a good package but not sure they have the finances long term to bring him closer to a second title. Kinda hope he stays put but ya my thought is can Lotus push on to be achieve the drivers title?

Once again the forum resident idiot martial artist (U9033) displays his usual lack of F1 knowledge.

According to the one trick pony, McLaren have no engine in 2014, Monaco is low downforce, Rosberg not good enough to win the race he won, Micheal Schumacher was a damp squid, the 2014 Mercedes power unit will not have a power advantage, Chapman was a genius, Jim Clark had whims, Lewis Hamilton has a dog on a lease, and you have to watch a driver before you can comment on him.

So Jenson Button is now a clown is he? The one trick pony had the opposite opinion of Jenson not so long ago. According to the pony Jenson has the benefit of the 2013 McLaren, a car that the pony declared was an “evolution” of the superb 2012 car and would suit his superior racing style by giving him the understeer that he is a master of.

The clowns in F1 (besides MA himself) are Ferrari.

I have always said, if you let martial continue to post, he will eventually argue against his earlier position. N606 and I had a discussion with him about adapting to a new car and he said hamilton had enough time to adapt to a new car and a top driver shouldn't take so long and we then highlighted his earlier defence of Alonso for taking long to adapt to the McLaren.

He even suggested that Alonso struggled with the tyres and Hamilton as a rookie was better placed to adapt. Considering Hamilton was driving in another formulae all together, we couldn't help ourselves laughing at him.

I've said it before, the guy is a troll or either someone with 'special needs'. I've filtered the poor soul because my heart couldn't deal with the constant laughter. I kind of miss him though, no one makes me laugh so hard like he does. Some memories I have are listed below for your entertainment;

martial artist (U9033)

“the loss of hamilton will not be a major loss as perez and a number of the younger drivers that mclaren can probably pick from namely hulkenburg have the potencial to be as good if not better than Hamilton”

comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted on 9/3/13
agent 47

i said "potentially" better than hamilton , when you really look at the wider picture, take away all the bollox and hype of his patriotic fans and what has hamilton really achieved since 2008 when he had the best car anyway and massa had alot of bad luck -

just my opinion agent but i believe perez is probably as quick as hamilton is more intelligent in the car than hamilton and has more finesse with the tyres than hamilton that will pay dividends for mclaren in the future ------ just my opinion bud

Wait, there's more

martial artist (U9033)
“there would seem precious little doubt that this years mclaren mp4-28 is going to be an immensely quick car , mclaren have been highly competitive for the last 3 years , as good as the red bull in 2010 and 2011 and better than red bull throughout 2012 ,

only the highly intelligent and brilliant vettel and the two mclaren drivers inability to glean the maximum from the pirelli tyres as vettel did have prevented mclaren from major silverware for the last few years ,

it would seem things have fallen into place for button as he has had alot of input from day 1 into this years car and has been waxing lyrical about the performance of the mp4-28 that very likely has been molded around his liking for understeer ,

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12479/8457845/Jenson-Button-says-McLaren-s-2013-car-is-the-best-the-team-have-ever-made


however ----------- there may be a little fly in the ointment for button in the shape of perez , there is no doubt perez at such a young age has good potential and even now probably has similar ability and pace to buttons previous partner lewis hamilton , however more dangerous for button is sergio"s finesse with the pirelli tyres something that hamilton never really mastered -

buttons big advantage over perez is his experience within mclaren and his input into this years mp4-28 , something that the young mexican is lacking at this moment in time -
------------------------will 2013 be buttons last throw of the dice in his WDC ambitions ? ---

Now according to dear martial Button is useless. I swear you couldn't make it up

""Lewis Hamilton has a dog on a lease..."



Next stop?

Rent-A-Cat...

WTCBU

ha ha ha -- once again your head has exploded at the sight of my name on here ,
---- when are you going to write another pathetic topic about leaving the forum because i keep making you cry ,

as you are the forum coward and only good for following people around to insult them you wont have the guts to debate with me about button -
however if you have the guts to debate about button bring it on
--------- thats before you start blubbering about leaving the forum again because i keep making you cry

MAN UNT DEVIL

ha ha ha -- the other forum coward and the other half of the hamilton infatuation half wit club that is to scared to debate with me now goes into my history because he is to gutless to debate the topic up front with me -

what has my comments about perez got to do with anything -- they are not even relative to a move to ferrari for button ?
what have my past comments about button got to do with anything when talking about a hypothetical move to ferrari , it does not change the fact that i still believe he is not worthy of the ferrari drive --

got to do better than that to get the better of me -- you could always try growing a backbone instead of being a gutless coward and try debating the topic up front one to one with me with me instead of running away from me --
---------- bring it on coward
----------------------------------------- you know where i am

martial artist (U9033)

I am quite happy to debate with MA on any topic.

Unfortunately MA always runs away. I don't blame MA. He is rather dim.

I will take up MA's challenge and gladdy debate with him on this thread any F1 subject.

So bring on the subject and lets get going.

McLaren will not have the Mercedes engine for 2014? shall we debate that - I seem to recall he ran away from that debate.

Or how about

The McLaren 2013 car is an evolution of the superior 2012 car – oops he ran away from that one.

Then Rosberg is not good enough to win the race he won. - MA ran away

Damp Squids and dogs on leases – MA ran away

Mercedes engine loses power – MA runs away

Monaco is low downforce – MA runs away

Jim Clark had whims – MA runs away

So this is the challenge that I confront MA with

1. What is a scouse bin dipper
2. What are the flaws
3. what are the excuses
4. how does that relate to Jenson Button

Run away.

WTCBU, no need to debate with martial, he'll do that for you by dismissing his own argument in the same thread.

When you point this out, he will say he's either flucking with you or call you a gutless coward.

Not sure he knows what a coward is or understands what a forum is or even the point of debate.

This is what happens when people hate someone so much, their lives are filled with visions of them.

Poor martial, if only Hamilton knew how much he loved him

WTCBU

ha ha ha ha ,
you dont even have the guts to debate like an adult , your head explodes every time you see my name so you wait until one of my opinions does not come true , repeat opinions and then in desperation try and use it against me because you dont have the guts to debate up with me at the time about any formula 1 topic -
-------- probably because i took you apart so many times on the bbc 606 forum when you actually tried to debate with me -

come on then coward -- you want to debate about button ,
--------- here i am dont run away lets see what you have got -

MAN UNT DEVIL

but you are a coward manx because you filtered me which is the same as running away from me -

you spent months coming off 2nd best whenever we got into a vettel or hamilton debate and finally your head exploded and you filtered me and ran away from me -
---------- chick chick chick chick -----------
------------------------------------------ chicken

I feel I should ask for the outsiders, Martial why are you engaging Man U?

You are wasting your own time since he has filtered you, don't be so needy


In case you are wondering I'd call Spa a Medium-low downforce track