I personally think this is total nonsense. You've cleverly written too much for me to be bothered to deconstruct every point though.

Essentially though, to some points it really isn't his role, to others it would be true for any CEO, to others you make a true statement that isn't actually an argument in itself (Ferguson was at United a long time, should he have moved to a new role? Doyle was relegated twice but we'd love to keep him), when has he lied to the fans ? Taking risks do NOT necessarily lead to success, if they did then they wouldn't be risks, your examples of his NON roles being badly carried out use an extreme example in Swansea's foresight and Albion's scouting, almost no CEO matches these because they are extremely good.

And I can't make head nor tail of the first point.

We don't know what Moxey does, we don't know how good he is, we don't know how far he makes decisions or Morgan does...because of this I think calling for him to be sacked is ridiculous.

I don't buy into all the anti Moxey stuff to be honest.

I just think we have made errors in our set up, priorities over a period of time, but hopefully we have learnt from them.

Spot the loony

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This is far too much bo ll ocks in one place to be serious.

We do know what moxey is responsible for.

We can measure his success and track his progress or degression.

There is compelling evidence that implies Moxey is inadequate in his role.

You have not stated how Moxey is a success. You mention ferguson but success overrides his length of service. Moxey's failures imply he has gone stale.

I'm surprised at you comment in particular Cinci.
I thought you were a wise head.

Do you know what Moxey's job description is, not job title, job description ?

Yes, do you?

Enlighten us.

No.
If you're too lazy to do a 10 minute google search then i'm not going to spoon feed you.

However, what is interesting is how you are prepared to engage in a subject matter (regardless of your viewpoint) that you clearly have no understanding of.

If you do have knowledge on the subject and have chosen to restrict your knowledge then well, that's another bad character trait you perhaps should look to address.

You've written an article calling for someone to be sacked from a job when you don't know what that job is !

I can't imagine there is anyone on here that would be capable of doing the job, whatever it is.

If that's how you choose to perceive this article then that's another issue you should address (starting to rack up now and I've been on here 2 days!)

The article quite clearly substantiates my claim that he should leave and in doing so shows an understanding of Moxey's role.

As I advised you, do a ten minute google and the answers are there.

If you continue to post on this thread without adding to the discussion i'll be left with no alternative but to delete your comments.

Does there need to be Bute?
I don't recall the article stating Moxey should leave and be replaced by a 606 random member.

Maybe you do? If so, I suggest you lay off the drugs.

The point about him being fat has convinced me. He's got to go now.

I can't condone drug use. My point was that the job Moxey does is one that few others could do, in my humble opinion. I wouldn't preclude any 606 members if the job became vacant, as I'd keep an open mind, and wouldn't want to disadvantage any section of society.

Welcome back to the forum, by the way.

Welcome back.

welcome back?

first time user!

You may remember me from 12yards and the old606 though.

I went under the name, cryingwolf

I don't even pretend to know what moxeys job entails to be honest.
IF one of his roles is to generally advise Morgan, then j can understand some of the criticism as I think Morgan has come across as rather naive on a number of issues.
The stadium timing
Management handling in general
General PR with the fans

But I thought he was more or less the money man,negotiator, in which case he has not done terribly all told, after all, its not him who decides who needs a new contract or who can leave, he only follows orders.

I've been giving this further thought overnight, and I think Moxey's time to leave should be 5:30pm on weekdays, and maybe 7:30pm on a Saturday when the team's playing at home. If there's a night-match, I'd expect him to stay 'til 11:00pm.

Could we not combine his job with that of the groundsman therefore saving a salary ?

Fit lights to the mower and save on a company car as well

Definition of 'Chief Executive Officer - CEO'
The highest ranking executive in a company whose main responsibilities include developing and implementing high-level strategies, making major corporate decisions, managing the overall operations and resources of a company, and acting as the main point of communication between the board of directors and the corporate operations. The CEO will often have a position on the board, and in some cases is even the chair.
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So in short, the money man. I think Moxey does a good job overall. He got good money for Fletcher (13,376000) Jarvis (8,360,000) and Kightly (3,080,000). Almost 25m.

Those deals coming at the end of the transfer window last time. His valuation of Doyle may be too much, but someone may come in for him at the last minute too.

So overall I think he has done a decent enough job in balancing the books. Not sure if he had anything to do with the stadium re-development tho'.

If he has been told by the Board of Directors to keep the club afloat, despite what supporters want (including me) then keep him.

That's a fair assessment, Wolfie. People will maybe realise that his job isn't "a walk in the park".

I'm generally a fan of Moxey, but less so of Morgan.

If he knows nothing about football as he's often accused of...isn't that a good thing? Wouldn't that imply he'd correctly leave the football decisions to the 'experts'.

An obvious example is when we signed RJ I thought Moxey did very well in knocking down his transfer fee from something like a ridiculous 15M asking price down to 3.5M The fact RJ was the worst buy in the clubs history can't really be blamed on Moxey, and the lucrative deal given to RJ was based on the assumption that he was actually good and would gain in value like Fletcher...again IMO not really Moxey's fault.